Rebecca (Becca) Kufrin - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Kashathediva wrote:For me, the show's engagement does not mean much.  In fact, for me, it devalues the entire act of the "Normal" engagement between couples.
Just as the sham marriage between Lacy and Marcus devalued, IMO marriage and real vows taken. No words there. IMO this couple was even more than complicit on many levels, yet for whatever reason not willing to take that final commitment. 
Many past couples have mentioned the real relationship begins after filming. I believe this. 
For the show's sake, years and years ago I accepted that anything and everything goes. 
IMO, they way the machine looks at it, is if they suggest something and someone is willing it do it, it's not on them(production). People have free will even if they are manipulated etc. 
At the same time, I realize over the years not everything is the way it seems. Production will go to very great lengths to get what they want, what ever that is. 
I remember Deanna's father was vacationing out of the country(Greece?) and came home prematurely due to production saying his daughter was going to be proposed to. Meanwhile, Brad repeatedly told production this was not going to happen.  It was not going to happen and did not happen. Production brought Mr. Pappas home anyway to pressure Brad one more time. Brad stuck to his guns. Brad was hated. IMO Brad did the right thing. Not doubt about it as Brad would say. 
Respect is always important with human interactions. Sometimes things are not known until way after the facts. Hopefully, things are not the way they appear and not all the pieces of the puzzle are out there. Hopefully whatever situation went down was more respectful and compassionate.

Kashathediva wrote:For me, the show's engagement does not mean much.  In fact, for me, it devalues the entire act of the "Normal" engagement between couples.
Just as the sham marriage between Lacy and Marcus devalued, IMO marriage and real vows taken. No words there. IMO this couple was even more than complicit on many levels, yet for whatever reason not willing to take that final commitment. 
Many past couples have mentioned the real relationship begins after filming. I believe this. 
For the show's sake, years and years ago I accepted that anything and everything goes. 
IMO, they way the machine looks at it, is if they suggest something and someone is willing it do it, it's not on them(production). People have free will even if they are manipulated etc. 
At the same time, I realize over the years not everything is the way it seems. Production will go to very great lengths to get what they want, what ever that is. 
I remember Deanna's father was vacationing out of the country(Greece?) and came home prematurely due to production saying his daughter was going to be proposed to. Meanwhile, Brad repeatedly told production this was not going to happen.  It was not going to happen and did not happen. Production brought Mr. Pappas home anyway to pressure Brad one more time. Brad stuck to his guns. Brad was hated. IMO Brad did the right thing. Not doubt about it as Brad would say. 
Respect is always important with human interactions. Sometimes things are not known until way after the facts. Hopefully, things are not the way they appear and not all the pieces of the puzzle are out there. Hopefully whatever situation went down was more respectful and compassionate.

Kashathediva wrote:During Jason's season, I was a member at a forum that were OTT Jason and Melissa fans (of course, once it was established that was THE couple. Always back the winner. LOL)
Molly had many rumors and negative attributes attached to her persona: She had slept with Jason on her tent date. She was pregnant. She dated married men and was a home wrecker. She destroyed her boss's marriage. She was a shrew and was sl*t shamed. 
Many of these things were fostered by someone with an evil motive. imo
The point I'm trying to make is little to none of this ended up being true. 
With RS being the main person of info, I am loathe to tar and feather until all the facts are out there.

sdmom wrote:Haha, I was on that board, a firm member on Melissa f1 bandwagon, and I remember everything!
A good lesson for me though. That’s why now I am waiting to see how everything unfold this season before I make a conclusion.

jen689 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:... I want to know why he picked Becca in the first place....

RS said it was hard for Lauren to be her authentic self during filming. Arie chose Becca because she was able to express herself. She was “all in” Production wanted a proposal. Arie agreed. Since he did “love” both women he wanted to see what is was like to spend time with both away from the cameras. Lauren was a better choice in real life. I’m glad he picked Lauren because I think Becca will make a great Bachelorette JMO