Bachelorette Australia - Sophie Monk - Season 3 - *NO SPOILERS* - *SLEUTHING* Discussion*

Norcalgal wrote:I feel pretty confident Jarrod is F2 - that preview from his HT and mom saying "Please don't break his heart" is so much like Elise asking Matty not to take her further if he didn't see it with her.

HEA wrote:@mjoy I am confused to be honest.

with any other lead, I generally know the top 2. my record say that I pick the F2 most of the time with the male version of the franchise but i am generally good with the female version.

But with sophie? She is so awkward and stiff but i have a hard time to decide if it is because she does not feel it or if because she is shy with the ones she wants too much. This theory does not work because of Luke and we all know he did not even make top4.

yes she was flattered that stu told her that being above the aussie mortal as his presence will ruin business relationships, his wish to participate was for her forbidding her to end with another guy but him..... i get that. (not believing his speech since he had 12 months to contact her discreetly without the franchise to woe her and date her... the last minute second thought that she mind be his SECOND love of his life after his WIFE... do not buy it)

The incredible connection they had right at the helico.... with all the guys behind her? Sorry, do not buy it either.

This said, it IS possible that since the helico he was completely hidden, which he was for 2 episodes until he got his 1-1. So the guy arrived late, and was on top of it hidden so we saw zero love story and he ends up F1? Makes no sense.

Now. we also know that we have hometown and still 2 other dates before the finale. But we also know that by hometown, leads generally already know who are their F1.

So unless we have sophie who asked the prods before show to convince him to participate (who knows, maybe sophie is not the genuine girl we think she is.... we saw that with matty j who already made his choice with laura whom he met at this sauna).... Since it was sophie who refused the date, since she said she changed her mind with stu about his personality....

oh and very interesting here about this... changed her mind.... so for me I read that the guy was a player. Didn't you catch this guys? She specifically said that she was glad he made her change her mind. So I am thinking that the guy loved/loves to party. Money is not an issue.

So out of nowhere, with this recent (how recent? before meeting sophie or after?) homeless TV public show, he had an illumination and decided tht sophie was the girl he wanted to end his life with, become a stepmother .... and very accepting the fact that he is not free to marry her........ mmm... why not. I will give him the benefice of the doubt but changing overnight like that and decided to with no more parties?.... yeah right. I will give him the 1% chance it is that.

If he is F1... I know australian people will have a major fit with that. Still married, rich and not the regular bloke she said she wanted.... ouch

For me time is key in this franchise. It is said over and over again. Lets remember luke saying that the "aggressive way is working" with sophie. We definitely saw that with Jarrod. We saw that with James (all the SC I made showing that he was next to sophie during GD). Apollo, I did not particularly noticed. However, I saw Stu making affectionate bald moves when she was on the boat with AJ and James and I did not see interest or receciprocity. In fact she was more at ease with Blake when he gave her a massage and when she put her arm around his back when she took him away for the extra time. I did not see much chemistry with blake after that on the boat and she kind flatly refuse to kiss him by turning it in a joke.

Flattery and interest are 2 different things. She claimed many times she wants a bestie. So far I see emotional connection and ease with apollo and james. I do not see this ease with stu, jarod, even blake.

Jarrod showed his devotion since day 1.... he would literally die for her. He is everything sweet and excessive. HOwever sophie is in the bubble and it is hard for her to see the OTT. She does not see half of what the audience see with the guys. So for her, he is genuine and she knows he is in love. For this reason, she likes him. Her attitude when she ran after him to console him and make a diversion with the ugg boots was so so obvious.

again because they have things in common does not mean stu is F1. I bet she met many guys like stu in real life. Many who work few months and do nothing the other time of the year. Having 3 siblings is also nice but not A major factor that they are meant to be together......

James is still my F1 but this franchise taught me to wait after hometown to decide truly as this is generally when we truly see the chemistry.

Norcalgal wrote:@HEA I have no idea what Stu's (hmm - former?) wife looks like but I'm sure he landed someone really hot because he had money. They haven't been together for 4 years. I truly believe that after a while you just want companionship and Stu being single for 4 years and chasing a lot of ____ and not finding what he wanted - well he could decide to change his tactics and find a friend.

I think if Stu ends up as F1, Australia is going to make sure Ten goes down in flames. Even new ownership won't save it! And I'd be curious what effectg it might have on Sophie's career. Probably none as all publicity is good publicity, right?

mjoy wrote:If we think about Stu's edit though, the producers have really downplayed that he is separated and not divorced and they have downplayed his rich playboy lifestyle.  Maybe the producers are really trying to give him as positive of an edit as they possibly can? Therefore, F1.  And therefore

Sprite wrote:
The order of the other three I'm less sure about, but if I had to make a prediction I would go for Jarrod as the broken hearted F2, Apollo as the sweet F3 being set up for the next lead and James as F4. Clearly, I think...and hope...that Blake goes home next episode before the HTDs.

Of course, I still reserve my right to change my mind depending on what I see next. Sophie is proving to be more of a challenge to read than I expected.