Bachelor Canada - Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

It could be a nice change if the person who gets the 1st 1:1 date gets to be the ONE. I don't recall when that happened..

truth is chris has a harem of girls. he does not know them at meet and greet and it is IMO just physical attraction. Then, he has to speed the process to like some and reject other. If we think, all the girls he liked the most were the most "confident". Chris is still in the process to very little time with each one of them. And each night IMO he has to process who said what and who is felt the closest.

so for me he is balancing one emotion to the next because what he thought okay the previous day, is no longer valid the next. At last CP he said: it becomes a small group... aka he does not have to blalance to a lot of people and things are getting both easier and harder because his feelings are growing.

so if we take that time for him is essential, then we know that he was attracted to mik from day 1... their relationship took an upward trajectory, we say him kissing her silly during mini golf and the night portion.... and now they spent all day talking. this is the kind of process that solidify IMO a relationship

versus lindsey which we saw the age concern during the plane activity and pursued to the night portion..... and again with the extra time they had together... to the point that lindse said on PI that she was tired of this ongoing age issue... which means that was a long long talk about it..... then we saw kiss kiss no talk on last GD which was pretty much the objecive of the aphrodisiac GD.

for me it is as if it is the reverse.... physical and turing meaningful emotional with mikaela and meaningful with non resolved issue turning to physical.... as if he gave up on the issue. which one is the most natural out of the two?  I believe mik is

I do not see the relationship evolving to peaceful acceptance she is the one with Lindsey. She was also edited as being a bit of a villain by ratting to the girls the britany note that was said in confidence and not to be shared obviously.

The ep7 teaser has also the same edit as we saw with catie. when catie tried to interrupt mk and chris kissing... on next teaser ep7.. we see mik and chirs kissing and lindsey upset about it. same.

so what do we have truly to confirm that it could be lindsey? this endless age issue, the hang on, some stong physical connection (not the only one as we saw with britany and mikaela) the kissing last GD and words that chris said to lindsey that are IMO pale shadows of what he said to mik (love story, futur, very serious, etc)

At this point i do not see a steady evolution

the funny thing is that Jasmine and Sharleen are thiNking that mikaela is now F1, jasmine from day 1... Sharlen think lindsey is too obvious and i think the same.

JMO

Sprite wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:Isn't it normal for the F2, 3, 4's connection to start ramping it up to take the heat off the lead and the F1?

The person that had the first connection and had been building on their storyline has been Lyndsey.  The diversion people now are Mikaela and Jessie.  That is why IMO Mikeala was highlighted last epi to start building the "oh maybe she's the F1" thinking, meanwhile during the episode, Lyndsey's storyline has continued.  IMO

IMO, Mik is getting a F2 or at least a distraction edit meanwhile Lyndsey's storyline and connection is still growing.

Exactly. If Jessie has a date next week I'm sure he will ramp up the connection with her as well even though I see absolutely zero physical chemistry between them up to this point.

As for him opening up...well that applies to all the women not just Michaela. I don't see that as an obstacle for them...I see it as an obstacle for Chris. The age issue is specific only to Lyndsay.

Yea, I was going to ask if there is a storyline for Mikaela that I am obviously mising. I never saw one for her from day 1. Maybe someone can help me with that??

BUT, I do feel you are correct. the opening up does apply to all the women. IMO Mikaela isn't getting any storyline other than a typical F2/F3 edit.

@LynnTa typically the one with a storyline or something to overcome such a Lydsey's age and how that affects both of them has been traditionally the F1. I have yet to see a storyline or obstacle to over come with Mikaela. That to me means that she wont be the F1. IMO

LynnTa wrote:It could be a nice change if the person who gets the 1st  1:1 date gets to be the ONE.  I don't recall when that happened..

It hasn`t happened in this franchise meaning the Canadian one but it has happened in the american one. being Ben Flajnik.

HEA wrote:truth is chris has a harem of girls. he does not know them at meet and greet and it is IMO just physical attraction. Then, he has to speed the process to like some and reject other. If we think, all the girls he liked the most were the most "confident". Chris is still in the process to very little time with each one of them. And each night IMO he has to process who said what and who is felt the closest.

so for me he is balancing one emotion to the next because what he thought okay the previous day, is no longer valid the next. At last CP he said: it becomes a small group... aka he does not have to blalance to a lot of people and things are getting both easier and harder because his feelings are growing.

so if we take that time for him is essential, then we know that he was attracted to mik from day 1... their relationship took an upward trajectory, we say him kissing her silly during mini golf and the night portion.... and now they spent all day talking. this is the kind of process that solidify IMO a relationship

versus lindsey which we saw the age concern during the plane activity and pursued to the night portion..... and again with the extra time they had together... to the point that lindse said on PI that she was tired of this ongoing age issue... which means that was a long long talk about it..... then we saw kiss kiss no talk on last GD which was pretty much the objecive of the aphrodisiac GD.

for me it is as if it is the reverse.... physical and turing meaningful emotional with mikaela and meaningful with non resolved issue turning to physical.... as if he gave up on the issue. which one is the most natural out of the two?  I believe mik is

I do not see the relationship evolving to peaceful acceptance she is the one with Lindsey. She was also edited as being a bit of a villain by ratting to the girls the britany note that was said in confidence and not to be shared obviously.

The ep7 teaser has also the same edit as we saw with catie. when catie tried to interrupt mk and chris kissing... on next teaser ep7.. we see mik and chirs kissing and lindsey upset about it. same.

so what do we have truly to confirm that it could be lindsey? this endless age issue, the hang on, some stong physical connection (not the only one as we saw with britany and mikaela) the kissing last GD and words that chris said to lindsey that are IMO pale shadows of what he said to mik (love story, futur, very serious, etc)

At this point i do not see a steady evolution

the funny thing is that Jasmine and Sharleen are thiNking that mikaela is now F1, jasmine from day 1... Sharlen think lindsey is too obvious and i think the same.

JMO

I got to ask though.....what is the storyline for Mikaela?  What obstacle is there for her to overcome as that is the typical and predictable F1 scenario.  the F1 always gets a storyline and an obstacle that must be overcome.  Right now I see one for Lyndsey and not Mikaela.

Do you have the quotes from Sharleen and Jasmine about the Mikaela being F1?

IMO, Lyndsey has NOT been edited as a villian....LOL.

Once again to say that it is only Mikaela that Chris has said such strong words for with regards to feelings, etc, is IMO incorrect.  He has done it with Kait, Lyndsey, Jessie and Mikaela so to say that it is only her that is getting that IMO is wrong.

I would love to have some gaps filled in for me please.  Thanks.



ETA: Sorry about all my posts in order. Didn't think I made that many back to back. OOPS

I'm sorry but is there a requirement that you have to overcome something in order to be the F1 on the Canadian version? I know the producers can manipulate some fake obstacle and in Lyndsey's case, I do think it's a legit concern for Chris, but like...

Mikaela and Chris live in the same area, no obstacle there
Mikaela is in Chris's age range, no obstacle there
Mikaela has been open with Chris from the start, no obstacle there

We still have to meet her family so there's room for obstacles but I think Chris' breakthrough could be enough that they won't have to manipulate drama for Mikaela. I just don't think this is the be-all-end-all for F1. JMO.

Aunties_Love wrote:

LynnTa wrote:It could be a nice change if the person who gets the 1st  1:1 date gets to be the ONE.  I don't recall when that happened..

It hasn`t happened in this franchise meaning the Canadian one but it has happened in the american one. being Ben Flajnik.

Also the NZ (Matilda and Art).

BlackHalo wrote:I'm sorry but is there a requirement that you have to overcome something in order to be the F1 on the Canadian version? I know the producers can manipulate some fake obstacle and in Lyndsey's case, I do think it's a legit concern for Chris, but like...

Mikaela and Chris live in the same area, no obstacle there
Mikaela is in Chris's age range, no obstacle there
Mikaela has been open with Chris from the start, no obstacle there

We still have to meet her family so there's room for obstacles but I think Chris' breakthrough could be enough that they won't have to manipulate drama for Mikaela. I just don't think this is the be-all-end-all for F1. JMO.

No there is no requirement, but it is pretty standard across all versions of the franchise.

I have a question regarding the giving out of roses on the dates in the episode before HTD.

Kate has a rose on a tray  in the SC of her next week.


I can't see if there's a rose on the table in Jessie's SC of her SD.



We don't know if there will be a rose at stake in the group date/ maybe other SD dates and I was under the impression there are no roses given out on dates before HTD. Is this always the case so why is it different here?

All my SC from W Network The Bachelor Canada epi 7 previews

BlackHalo wrote:I'm sorry but is there a requirement that you have to overcome something in order to be the F1 on the Canadian version? I know the producers can manipulate some fake obstacle and in Lyndsey's case, I do think it's a legit concern for Chris, but like...

Mikaela and Chris live in the same area, no obstacle there
Mikaela is in Chris's age range, no obstacle there
Mikaela has been open with Chris from the start, no obstacle there

We still have to meet her family so there's room for obstacles but I think Chris' breakthrough could be enough that they won't have to manipulate drama for Mikaela. I just don't think this is the be-all-end-all for F1. JMO.

All I can attest to is that for bachcan 1, Bianka and the jealousy issues. Brad wasn't sure if Bianka was all in.
Bachcan 2, April had the issue of whether she was good enough, jealousy, and just having to put up with the processs
Bette 1; Kevin and his jealousy

So from that, IMO each of the F1's had an obstacle where as the F2/F3/F4's don't.

Sprite wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:I'm sorry but is there a requirement that you have to overcome something in order to be the F1 on the Canadian version? I know the producers can manipulate some fake obstacle and in Lyndsey's case, I do think it's a legit concern for Chris, but like...

Mikaela and Chris live in the same area, no obstacle there
Mikaela is in Chris's age range, no obstacle there
Mikaela has been open with Chris from the start, no obstacle there

We still have to meet her family so there's room for obstacles but I think Chris' breakthrough could be enough that they won't have to manipulate drama for Mikaela. I just don't think this is the be-all-end-all for F1. JMO.

No there is no requirement, but it is pretty standard across all versions of the franchise.

What about when they are producer driven obstacles vs. valid obstacles like what Chris has with Lyndsey... With the age difference and location she could be written off as not the one but instead it's the opposite. See what I mean? There have been F1's that have been all-in, no obstacles and won while the presumed F1 with obstacles  left on their own or didn't get chosen (e.g. Brooks, Becca). So it isn't a standard for every season. JMO.

Thanks @Aunties_Love. Jealousy obstacles are more producer driven/editing IMO.