Bachelor Canada - Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

devilmaycar3 wrote:The VO bothers me a little too as the tone really sounds like Lyndsey's voice. I am hoping for it to be just a misdirection. I mean Chris whole struggle on the age thing revolve around her readiness to be at the same stage in life as he is. She seems to give him the assurance that a lot of him is what she wants now. That will be so heartbreaking if Chris takes the leap and have his worst fears came through.

And I do not disregard this option.
For me, after reading Lindsey blog, she was not ready in mexico. She is in a better place today but 6-8 months after the trip there. But no matter what maturity does not imply kids and marriage. She craves travels. He craves to stay home and no longer travel.... he wants to settle down in Toronto... we saw his fake real estate visit on ep1.... she is in Vancouver, adore her family living in Vancouver area... I mean, I do not see it working. I am positive she is not ready to move to Toronto since she said she is going to Australia one way!!!

Even if he fell for her, even if he picked her, sorry but the Owens are not good imo

I think I also sloughed the black painting on eyes as being Mexican or mayas.

Can you provide similar painting?

tatladylu wrote:What I meant was that Lyndsey says it in VO then tells Chris at the FRC. Hope not ...that would not be a nice thing to do.

Re: showing the declaration already

Is it possible that they decided to show us the love story because it was too difficult to hide ( too obvious) so they did their best to create all these side stories aka drama?

Maybe.

tatladylu wrote:What I meant was that Lyndsey says it in VO then tells Chris at the FRC. Hope not ...that would not be a nice thing to do.

Re: showing the declaration already

Is it possible that they decided to show us the love story because it was too difficult to hide ( too obvious) so they did their best to create all these side stories aka drama?

Well, for Bachcan 1, I saw early on a strong love story between Brad and Bianka. For season 2, not so much, but others said that they saw a strong one for April and Tim. Now I see a strong one for Lyndsey and Chris. Did you see the smile in Chris's eyes as he was talking about Lyndsey and how it surprised him how well she did on the baseball date. Well, what I think I am saying if I ever get around to it is that IMO, the Canadian franchise tends to show more of the love story without all the drama.

Could be that she is only going to tell Chris about the BM not being nice to the girls.

HEA wrote:I think I also sloughed the black painting on eyes as being Mexican or mayas.

Can you provide similar painting?

Yes, it is all part of the same traditional values passed onto BOTH cultures as part of the Aztec division of the traditions that the Taino people have.  Makes sense considering that that far back in history(Columbus days), the same people were dropped off in all of those islands had the same heritage with them.


ETA:

Thinking about Lyndsey's blog. To tell the truth, the thing about Australia, I am not holding much faith in that. I will wait to the finale but putting that out there as being positive re-inforcement that she's NOT the final one IMO is premature. It may be a rouse.... Bianka also talked about carrying on with her life and doing something different and we all know how that season turned out. She was F1 and didn't change a thing after the finale.

Except Lindsey is VERY specific... Australia............ and January 2018
They do not have a handler for 6 months, it is logical that they make mistakes. After all the prods are far from perfect. Lets remember the video of tim and April who was made public before the finale eh? And Trish who met this guy between the finale and the tv premiere
Cancun, tulum are mayas territory.... and playa del Carmen which I think was the finale... so blowing the conch with a maya tradition is definitely not that far stretched imo

Again time will tell soon enough....

HEA wrote:Except Lindsey is VERY specific... Australia............ and January 2018
They do not have a handler for 6 months, it is logical that they sidewalk
Lets remember the video of tim and April who was made public before the finale eh?
Cancun, tulum are mayas territory.... and playa del Carmen which I think was the finale... so blowing the conch with a maya tradition is definitely not that far stretched imo

Again time will tell soon enough....

AND Bianka was serious about what she was saying too.  Come on, just throwing something out there as it's what I feel may be happening again.  I was directly told by Bianka that during season 1, she told friends and associates that she was taking a leave of absense and travelling overseas.  This plan was hatched by her and the producers.  Those are the same producers that are doing this season as well so not throwing anything out the window there.  Kind of sounding familiar right????

The Taino are Dominican Republic's territory as well so do we just ignore that??  IMO, this could very well be in the Dominican Republic and saying that it's cancun's territory to me may be shortchanging the sleuthing process to not really consider that it's a possibility.  Yea, Cancun is the finale, but from now to then we still have at least 1 more ID in epi 6 and likely(if Bach2 and bette1 of Canadian series are any example), there will be 2 ID's in epi 7 and up to 3 possible ID or 2 ID and a 2/1.  We still have 3 dates minimum to go so IMO,  shortchanging us on the sleuthing and saying cause it is mayan culture so therefore it happens there when we do see from the research done, that it is also a Taino and Dominican Republic thing may be wrong.

Here is sc's that I think are still to come.....first with the ones that we have sleuthed for sure and if ABSOLUTELY SURE who is on the date:






Mikaeala's



GD1 - epi 6



GD2 - epi 6







2/1?? Epi 7 - typical on being let go





Lyndsey's HTD




CANCUN:

Pirate ship BUT NOT confirmed as to who was on it



Lyndsey's date in Cancun






OTHERS IN DOMINICAN REPUBLIC







IMO with the timing of the schedule, we are looking at this for the rest of the season:

epi 6
May 8 - ID
may 9 - GD
may 10 - GD
may 11 - RC

epi 7
may 12 DAY OFF
may 13 - ID
may 14 - ID
may 15 - GD
may 16 - 2/1 ?? with Kait  OR  ID
May 17 - RC 6-4


May 18 leave Dominican Republic - IG pic and Passport stamp
May 19 day off
May 20 HTD1
May 21 day off
May 22 HTD2
May 23 day off
May 24 HTD3
May 25 day off
May 26 HTD4
May 27 - RC and travel day

May 28 FD1
May 29 FD2
May 30 MTP 1 and 2 ( In bachcan 2 they had both in one day - due to rain, it was obvious) Same could happen here
May 31 LCD1
June 1 LCD2
June 2 - FRC



Thoughts??????

1.  you are missing catie in RD crying river
2. you have no proof that the place is RD with mikaela crying with her conservative top
3. you are missing the girl with long hair kssing chris in sea (possibly stacy or lindsey)
4. lindsey date is not cancun but Tulum which is another city south
5. lindsey picnic is still not confirmed it is hometown, even if all evidence are in this direction
6. you cannot confirm that the meet the parent both were done the same day
7. catamaran can be one girl and the hand in hand be another... right now we have no proof it is the same girl
8. we have no proof yet that it is ONLY 2 girls after hometown

IMO.... your timeline is not correct and they came probably the 3rd or the 4th (same day the 2 girls were sleeping with their clothes on the sofa).... so it is still POSSIBLE that stacy came before or with them, even asked to wait at her hotel the end of the finale. we were not there, we do not know yet and everything is possible. She went in Costa Rica many times as well as mexico from 2014  and 2017. She seems to travel a lot!! And since we see no mexico stamp June 2, she may have been eliminated way earlier and decided to travel again. Right now the answer is we do not know.

The chemistry with Mikaela cannot be compared with Stacy... especially when he said that nothing evoked with Stacy last ep.... so to imagine Stacy F2 .......

HEA wrote:1.  you are missing catie in RD crying river
2. you have no proof that the place is RD with mikaela crying with her conservative top
3. you are missing the girl with long hair kssing chris in sea (possibly stacy or lindsey)
4. lindsey date is not cancun but Tulum which is another city south
5. lindsey picnic is still not confirmed it is hometown, even if all evidence are in this direction
6. you cannot confirm that the meet the parent both were done the same day
7. catamaran can be one girl and the hand in hand be another... right now we have no proof it is the same girl
8. we have no proof yet that it is ONLY 2 girls after hometown

IMO.... your timeline is not correct and they came probably the 3rd or the 4th (same day the 2 girls were sleeping with their clothes on the sofa).... so it is still POSSIBLE that stacy came before or with them, even asked to wait at her hotel the end of the finale. we were not there, we do not know yet and everything is possible. She went in Costa Rica many times as well as mexico from 2014  and 2017. She seems to travel a lot!! And since we see no mexico stamp June 2, she may have been eliminated way earlier and decided to travel again. Right now the answer is we do not know.

The chemistry with Mikaela cannot be compared with Stacy... especially when he said that nothing evoked with Stacy last ep.... so to imagine Stacy F2 .......

So do you mean DR?  Dominican Republic??

1) Excuse me, if you want to find it and put it there, thats good
2)  the rockery in the shrubs behind what is a pic of her in DR, has the same plants etc.  Same stick pattern for the fencing, same rocks so IMO, it is DR.
3) well pretty sure that is DR so if you want to find that and put it there....go for it
4) Excuse me.  It could of read Mexico but I think we all know what is meant.
5) There are no orchards in Mexico, there are no orchards in DR, so common sense says that it is HTD.  Since her family may be in the okanagan and since OK Falls / Vaseaux Lake holds a special place for her, then IMO since I grew up in that area........I am going with it.
6) I NEVER SAID 100% that the MTP happened the same day.  Just going by the tight schedule there is, then that would make sense since they've done it before......common sense.
7)  That's not the point.  As I said in my post it is because it happened in DR as sleuthed by @richmondrose.  NOT who it was or whether it involves the other cap.  I am just saying the ones that are in DR for sure.  What @richmondrose also found is that the girl in the suit on the boat has the same suit(colors/style) on on the beach.
8)  Look at the confirmed facts of it and what info we know about the show, the amount of time needed to finish the season if 3 went to the FD's.  IMO there just isn't time for 3.


All I am saying is take a look at the time frame. confirmed dates that they leave DR per passport stamps, IG pics and habits that have been shown.  Again, common sense IMO.  They left on the 18th per passport stamp.  It makes sense with the filming schedule timeframe up till that point so don't see why it wouldn't be that way.  Then we can assume as in past seasons, there are 4 htd's.  If so, then we have to account for that, not to mention we also have the producers IG pic which again is a habit of theirs they left Toronto on May 27/28.  We have an IG pic posted at 9am on June 4 from the producers home in Toronto.  IMO there is NO way they would of just stepped in the door and posted that pic.  They would of had to be home earlier on the 3rd to do that - to do that, they would of HAD to of had the FRC on the 2nd.  We have Stacey's passport stamp going back through NY on the 2nd.  FRC likely took place the 2nd.  SO, going by common sense, IMO Stacey and Lyndsey are in the F2.  To me, Stacey is hidden enough, yet has been shown with engaging conversations and kisses.  When they have been talking, it's not all roses.  There is enough controversey to make me think that "maybe" she could be in the F2 especially if she gets one of the next 3-5 ID's that are left in DR.

You mentioned that nothing evoked with Stacey......did you mean he didn't talk about her in that one epi?? I think he has said a few things about her. Also said a couple things about her with the baseball game too IMO.


FACTS:

There is an epi 7 in DR, they do leave DR on May 18 per passport stamp.  They do leave Toronto per IG pic from the producers(know that some feel this is hokey thinking this way, but when you look at all the other IG pics posted, the passport stamps collaborated them.  We do have Stacey's passport book stamped in NY by homeland security on June 2.  We do have an IG post saying they are home and it is a couch in their home I matched it up at 9am June 4.

IMO there really isn't wiggle room on the schedule that I did as far as the finale goes.  Now with the schedule before that, we still have the confirmation of them leaving the DR on May 18 and have the IG confirmation for May 27.

Maybe something happened on Mikaela's HTD to make things not work out.

I understand that Mikaela is well liked but IMO, we really have NOTHING that places her there....where as with Stacey, we have the June 2 passport stamp and NY. AND there is another Mexico entrada stamp that has a date of May and 2017 on it that I still can't get cleaned up.

I've been thinking....could it be Jessie jumping off that pirate ship? I see blond hair at the ends.

Michaela's crying picture, as it was stated, seems to be after MTP.

For me, the connection to Jessie is really starting to come forward.

Although they've shown little conversation, what I've heard and seen appears to be more "deep and meaningful" dialogue from those two. He admitted to her that he's afraid of being with hurt. He talked about holding on to hurt and what that one broken relationship did to him. This, to me, speaks more of an emotional connection. Jessie seems like a very good listener and reflects back what a person says or feels to show that she understands. She did that with Megan too.

Before Chris gave Jessie the rose from the the pool party date, he said something interesting, "I can't deny it any longer". We barely saw any interaction with them in prior episodes....what's there to deny? Unlesssssss, there is a connection that we're not seeing that Chris wanted to deny because it's an EMOTIONAL connection and he doesn't want to go there!! Hmmmm?

Coincidently, at the pool party, Jessie talked about the craziness of maybe meeting his soulmate. During the last rose ceremony, he used the same word but the camera showed Lyndsey when he said it. If you freeze the shot, he's looking up where Jessie is standing (Lyndsey is to the right and standing on the floor).

I'm beginning to wonder if Lyndsey's connection might just be more infatuation...young lady infatuated by an older guy. Lyndsey talks about being ready for a emotional relationship. Is she? Whereas, Jessie shows that she's ready by having those, again, "deep and meaningful" conversations.

For me, I like all final four that were surmised from previous posts (Lyndsey, Michaela, Stacey and Jessie).

I don't know. Could I be off on this?

Sorry for this other post.

One final thing....

People can be so insensitive particularly on social media. For some reason, the guise of anonymity gives people a license to say things you would hopefully never say in public. Let's remember that that these people, on this show, are real people who hurt just like the rest of us.

It horrible what Jessie has had to go through recently. Let's love a little harder as Lyndsey said.

Sorry for the rant!