Bachelor Australia - Season 5 - Matty Johnson - F1-F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

Bobette wrote:

SugarAndSpice wrote:Looks like sportsbet is gearing up for the influx of bets leading up to the finals! After Tara's performance on Dubbo radio ("..after I got eliminated..") her odds of winning have definitely decreased. Laura and Elise holding steady with odds, but a big change in max bets as follows:

Laura $1.40, max bet $500, max loss $200 (up from a loss of $40)
Elise $3.50, max bet $200, max loss $500 (up from a loss of $200)
Tara $8.00, max bet $71, max loss $497 (up from a loss of $350)
Source: SportsBet

I suspect as Thursday night draws closer we should see an evening out of odds (or at least max loss) between F1/F2.. if we don't IMO that's highly suspect.

(as a side note - Something funky is happening with Odette from Survivor Au, who had the best odds all season, but just got eliminated. She is still showing up in my "betting shopping basket" with odds of $1001, however, she isnt showing up in the current list of contestants. FOr bachelor contestants, once they are eliminated they are permanently wiped from my "shopping basket". For future Bach/ette sleuthing, I am going to keep an eye on that to see if Odette returns to the show..might explain the winning odds and odd behavior now)

Thanks @SugarAndSpice - I appreciate all that extra info you have that's only accessible with an account.  It's very revealing!

Katiebelle wrote:

Rikkim wrote:

stoneleigh wrote:

I'll join the club too! There are quite a few of us!

I'm in too, absolutely agree!

We might have enough for a quorum!

Katiebelle wrote:

Rikkim wrote:

stoneleigh wrote:

I'll join the club too! There are quite a few of us!

I'm in too, absolutely agree!

We might have enough for a quorum!

Sprite wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Yes, Simone said that Laura told them that she had met Matty. I definitely agree that Elise would, because of that and because of her late date in the season, be wanting to get a ton of reassurance (and her family too) from Matty that she is not just being played and used for a storyline.

So basically Matty told her that one date can change everything and that he wished their first date had been earlier. Basically reassuring her that even if he had known Laura before, he was invested in Elise. It's why I think that if Elise is not F1, then she will think that Matty was not genuine and that he went out of his way to lead her on because she and her family talked to him about this.

I just can't get over the word in that interview... the word "bittersweet" which doesn't seem like a good word for a F1 imo. Elise saying being compared to Matty being bittersweet... so heartbreaking...love and lost...imo. I don't see a F1, even one who's love story may not be as obvious use the word bittersweet. OTOH I guess it could be a F1 thing where it's bittersweet because she is F1 and yet OTT media not about her and Matty.

IDK. I hope that Elise isn't F2 and that as even Elise said, Matty was genuine. To me, I get this show, there is always a F2, but given Matty's backstory and being the only lead ever for the Aussie franchise who has been F2, then doing to Elise what was done to him to me would show me he is not genuine. It's cruel. Rather take Tara or Flo there as I don't think they are as invested. 

I don't know what to think

I guess I'm more cynical than many of you. If Matty and Laura had met before the show and the others knew that, and then on top of that they saw that she was his favourite, then I don't see any of them getting invested. This would explain much of the way this season came across to me. I don't see Matty that engaged and I don't see the ladies engaged either. Additionally, they know what the show is like. There has to be an F2. I don't care if her family told him not to drag her. Someone has to be F2. If it turns out to be Tara or if it had been Flo, we would still be having this discussion just with different people. Every single season, I see this discussion. Every single one! And who is to say that families of the other women didn't say the same thing? They just show hers saying it since it turned out it she was the F2.

Thank goodness this is over this week. I hope Sophie is more engaging...and the Canadian Bachelor Chris.

AllAboutLove wrote:@niclou I mean don't get me wrong, there's always going to be a F2. But I don't think that no matter who it is it doesn't matter, especially for returnee cast as leads.

jmo

niclou wrote:@AllAboutLove I totally agree. I just don't see a scenario where people would be happy with Tara or Elise as F2. I think Laura is the most able to deal with being F2 as she has gained so much from being on the show despite the result. I think it would be really rotten of Matty to do to Elise what was done to him (and after the uproar of Richie/Alex/Nikki). I still believe they're going for the slow burn storyline, otherwise there would be no point in Elise being hidden for so long. They could have just shown her from the beginning as being on a level playing field as the others and let whatever happens, happen...

brownravens wrote:I know we've addressed this ad nauseam but I still find it super interesting that based on the FB live the least amount of people want Laura to win - Tara beating her is understandable but Elise too is weird IMO. Compared to Alex, she's been given a generous edit and lots of screen time but people just haven't warmed to her and pretty curious about why. I know we spend tonnes of time analysing (and stalking) so its only natural we develop favourites but it just seems like casual viewers aren't that keen on her and it's confusing me on a conceptual level - there's nothing she's explicitly done.