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Post by umngirl Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:13 pm

@MPEreads @RealitySteve we just saw @ariejr filming in Ft. Lauderdale. Any idea where they are staying or how long they are here?
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Post by Aria Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:15 pm

Is that Chelsea?

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Post by umngirl Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:16 pm

Aria wrote:Is that Chelsea?

Yes it is.
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(SPOILER): Not Peter on a 1-on-1 date with single mom, Chelsea Roy today


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Post by Kolormiblnd Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:08 pm

(?Spoiler?)I don't know if this was already posted or if I can post it here, but there was a response by "the prisoner" to RS tweet on the Chelsea Roy 1:1 that said "could we just declare Caroline Lunney the winner right now and skip the actual show" What does that mean? Was she one of the brunettes behind Arie that John Wolfner was talking about?
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Post by Aria Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:21 pm

I think people are just expecting her to win because she's so pretty.

It doesn't seem like she's had a 1-on-1 yet though, unless she gets one this or had one last week, so she might be as big of a frontrunner as many suspected. I think the girl that got to see his house/got private concert (which likely happened week 3) is probably the frontrunner and that cant be Caroline. IMO.

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Post by Kashathediva Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:59 pm

I think the formula episode 3 1:1 date has a frontrunner spot. Didn't Caroline go on the group date that episode?



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Post by tigertiz Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:39 pm

Yes Kasha, Auntie's Love timeline has Caroline on the Grove group date in ep. 3.
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Post by Aria Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:05 pm

tigertiz wrote:Yes Kasha, Auntie's Love timeline has Caroline on the Grove group date in ep. 3.

Yup! Week 3 was the Grove date - which had Caroline, Chelsea, Annalise, Renecca, Jenna C on it, and two unknowns. So we know it can't be them. And it can't be Sienne since she got a week 4 date. And Maquel, Valerie, Jenna D, and and Lauren S are gone. So it's either an unknown or it can be possibly be Tia, Marikh, Lauren B, Kendall, or Bibiana. And it's possible there were two week 3 dates, as RS said Sienne had the 4th 1-on-1. Unless he's just confused (just as likely). IMO.

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Post by Chgohighlife Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:50 pm

*EDIT*

Nothing is true of every man, there are always exceptions but, IN GENERAL and IMO;
Men as experienced as Arie can be cagey and shrewd but, dating them is not rocket science. Most men almost always have a woman they sleep with, that need is not one most of them are willing to ignore. Love and sex can be as mutually exclusive as love and eating or, love and breathing. The fact that a man wants to have the same woman in his bed as opposed to being out on the prowl every other night comes with age and experience and a fear of disease. One woman is easier, more convenient and safer. Spending every night with the same woman can be just as much a function of being a creature of habit as it can be a function of being in love or finding "the one". When a 35 year old man doesn't tell you he loves you, it's not because he is shy or, reserved. He has said it before to someone(s) - if he knows you he knows how much you want to hear it so, if he doesn't say it to you, it's fair to assume it is because he doesn't love you. If any member of his immediate family is christened, married or buried and you're not invited - assume the same, he doesn't love you and he's not serious about you. **IMO**

*IMO*A little facing reality goes a long way toward protecting your heart and saving you time. You have nothing to lose by leaving him because he is a man - men are predators by nature, they stalk, mark their territory and capture what they really want. If he wants you, he'll come and get you. Maybe not tomorrow but, he will. If it's just fine with him that you leave and start to date other men - that's because he doesn't really want you for himself. *IMO*

Now, I remember reading that Arie's last girlfriend said he stayed with her in her apartment for a while as he was waiting for his house to be "finished". He probably would have crashed at our house or, his buddy's condo - he needed a temporary place to stay. *IMO*That is not "living together". That's another point; IMO if he buys a new home and doesn't invite you to share it - he most likely doesn't love you.

Women always have a need to label relationships, IMO. I label that one, dating - which clearly means nothing permanent or, reliable. Lie to everyone else if you need to but, be honest with yourself, always. It prevents situations like the one this girl is trying to make money on, right now. All JMO

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Post by Kashathediva Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:30 pm

That's what I thought. losangeles - Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*  - Page 26 4256136633 So we might be looking at an unknown.



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Post by littlereddress Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:26 pm

Chgohighlife wrote:*EDIT*

Nothing is true of every man, there are always exceptions but, IN GENERAL and IMO;
Men as experienced as Arie can be cagey and shrewd but, dating them is not rocket science. Most men almost always have a woman they sleep with, that need is not one most of them are willing to ignore. Love and sex can be as mutually exclusive as love and eating or, love and breathing. The fact that a man wants to have the same woman in his bed as opposed to being out on the prowl every other night comes with age and experience and a fear of disease. One woman is easier, more convenient and safer. Spending every night with the same woman can be just as much a function of being a creature of habit as it can be a function of being in love or finding "the one". When a 35 year old man doesn't tell you he loves you, it's not because he is shy or, reserved. He has said it before to someone(s) - if he knows you he knows how much you want to hear it so, if he doesn't say it to you, it's fair to assume it is because he doesn't love you. If any member of his immediate family is christened, married or buried and you're not invited - assume the same, he doesn't love you and he's not serious about you. **IMO**

*IMO*A little facing reality goes a long way toward protecting your heart and saving you time. You have nothing to lose by leaving him because he is a man - men are predators by nature, they stalk, mark their territory and capture what they really want. If he wants you, he'll come and get you. Maybe not tomorrow but, he will. If it's just fine with him that you leave and start to date other men - that's because he doesn't really want you for himself. *IMO*

Now, I remember reading that Arie's last girlfriend said he stayed with her in her apartment for a while as he was waiting for his house to be "finished". He probably would have crashed at our house or, his buddy's condo - he needed a temporary place to stay. *IMO*That is not "living together". That's another point; IMO if he buys a new home and doesn't invite you to share it - he most likely doesn't love you.

Women always have a need to label relationships, IMO. I label that one, dating - which clearly means nothing permanent or, reliable. Lie to everyone else if you need to but, be honest with yourself, always. It prevents situations like the one this girl is trying to make money on, right now. All JMO

I have a friend who used to describe this as the "warm blanket girl" meaning that she was more than a hookup but not a woman he would ever be serious about. She is great to be with, is invited to all the casual fun activities, the family and friends love her but that it is where it ends as far as a future together. It sounds like she assumed they were serious because he was spending so much time with her and it was a matter of time before he would start talking love and marriage. I do think girls feel they are being emotionally toyed with when a dude does this but it is because they fail to recognize what is right in front of them and assume he feels the same way she does. If you read her interviews it sounded like she did all the chasing and made herself very convenient and easy for him. These types of arrangements are very easy to grow tired of and feel like it should be more mutual but it sounds she was hanging in waiting for it go further. All my opinion of course. It just does not sound Arie was all in with her.

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Post by GuardianAngel Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:44 pm

What's wrong with having a discussion about the relationship and the expectations?

If you're not on the same page, you either stay, or break it off. I certainly wouldn't be 'waiting' without a clear understanding of what we both want.


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