Bachelor Australia - Season 5 - Matty Johnson - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

natik wrote:

Sundy wrote:Following on from the F3 dress theory running in the Screencap thread I have another that I have been sitting on for a while but feel it's close enough to now share without drawing attention with the media.

In season 2,3,4 they have shown the final 3 dates in the following order F1,F2 and then F3 and then the final two dates F2 then F1. So it's gone 1,2,3,2,1 in the lead up to the final rose ceremony.

The only difference is season one and that went F3,F2,F1 and then final 2 F1 then F2. So a mirror of the other seasons.

This can't be a coincidence surely?

That's interesting! Great catch

@LeapofFaith I don't think the order for the rose ceremony of the F4 is significant. But I can say that in Sam W. season Sarah was called first then Snez. And on Richie 's season it was Nikki first and then Olena.

wow great memory!! ok thanks so i thought it might of been something but it looks like nothing

Just wanted to point something out and it may mean something or it may mean nothing. . The vows segment with Elise reminded me of Courtney (F1) from Ben Flajnik's season. They had a mock wedding. Okay...carry on!

Not the first time they play bride .... when tara came back with her white cocktail dress, the designer is specialized in wedding dresses. they were seen  crossing the (symbolic) bridge as a couple... while all the girls had mixed feelings

powerful message that for me made me think she was F1 at that time.
picture is on her IG

Moved from SC thread @Ash

Ash wrote:

Oh well after cooking with Tara, he asks if she wants some Parmesan. She says put the whole thing on mine.
he says he loves a woman who loves cheese. And she says well then u found urself the perfect wife..

Irdk they all like cheese even I like cheese

Ash wrote:I really loved Tara's date especially when they said goodbye. No other date IMO, came close. Laura's was actually uncomfortable. I thot MJ did a Richie when Tara said she wants to be with him at the end of this. His face lit up..

IMO, Tara could easily be F1. I really can't decide or tell - it really could be any if the remaining 3, as they are all lovely.

Thought Tara was eliminated because of her SM activity being to early in May. Has that changed?

I would absolutely love for Tara to be F1 and to be honest, if I were Matty I would choose Tara as she is so down to earth and fun BUT I think it's really clear he is is obsessed with Laura (I think Matty has a type for sure and Laura is it). In the episode last night, I felt Matty knows Tara is such a top chick, I think he feels so comfortable with Elise's family but I think he just wants Laura and won't be swayed at this stage. JMO

iamreal2u wrote:Thought Tara was eliminated because of her SM activity being to early in May.  Has that changed?

Nope she was tagged by her friend to say she was back in Brissy on May 17th (IG post below) and we have speculated FRC to be May 19th. She actually also changed her FB profile pic on May 16th, sleuthed information in her thread.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUOC8l_jU6l/?hl=en&taken-by=nicolekennedy_hairmua

^^Thanks Mercieme!

for me it is not even an option that tara is F1... but F2? yep...........

however, matty segment saying that he really did not want to hurt tara make me think she is possibly F3

Natik - this post is to say how much I truly appreciate your appreciation of my post it is soooo good to have your valuable sleuthing experience as support on the Elise Train
I also want to add a few other things I noticed after watching the HTD's several times over.
1) Elise was the only woman Matty complimented. You can see in his face he likes her figure.
2) Elise is the only one of the 3 who Matty turned back to wave to and smile as he walked away. (Him walking away from Tara wasn't even shown)
3) Laura had the only 'but' from Matty regarding their relationship.
4) Matty kissed Flo more than Laura and she was sent home.
5) Tara and Matty had a lot of fun on their date. IMO they have a genuine connection.
Also Matty and Elise's HTD was hugely edited. Marie goes inside to cook when it is late afternoon. Matty joins her when it is DARK!! When Matty goes inside he has a smirk on his face. I am 99% sure they rehursed the whole conversation.
And one last thing, for Laura to say 'she wants this', as others have said, it sounds like she wants to win. Her comment is not personal at all IMO

Good thoughts, @Storybook. Something else to take note of is when Matty is saying his goodbyes to each family, he says "See you later" to only Elise's family. The edit certainly point to Laura, but I see a deeper connection between Matty and Elise. If he doesn't choose her in the end, it's his loss. Jmho.