Bachelor In Paradise - Season 4 - Episodes - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #3

I'm confused...On BIP Dean cried after he let Kristina go because he realized the next day that he "loved" her. He is riddled with guilt, so he tells DLothat he wants to end it on the final day because he still has feelings for Kristina. Ok.

But after BIP did Dean actually date DLo? And did Kristina say that after BIP that Dean called her or wanted to date her too? He was pursuing both girls after BIP?!

Then in the Ellen clip, Kristina says that she might consider taking him back if he had learned from his mistake?! When was Ellen taped? Before or after the BIP finale was taped? I think that at this point both girls should have learned that Dean is not to be trusted. He is like a kid in a candy store. Not ready in the last to be in a committed monogamous relationship, IMO.

You read my mind almost @albean99

I thought this was the sweetest most romantic proposal! I feel they are both ready. Taylor is a very mature & settled girl

I don't know about anybody else, but I am quite impressed with Jack Stone. He came out as such a good guy & gentleman! IMO
He was fun, respectful, well versed, caring, etc I never thought anything of him before, but I found him very handsome due to his personality.

Very disappointed with cute Dean, starting to like Kristina better! Never liked D-Lo and still don't - no substance whatsoever!

Enjoy Christen tons, she is sweet & quirky & smart!

I wanted Jasmine gone the first time I saw her on Nick's season, and my opinion of her never changed. Could not stand her, or her ways!

Dominique was a sweetheart throughout IMO

Amanda should never do another show, please concentrate on growing up and raising your girls!

Raven was really good on BIP, but she needs to have more emotion when she talks... I find her so flat and boring. I do think Adam and her make a nice couple, good balance I guess. He has the gift of gab for both of them!!

I would have loved to know & see more of Wells and Danny also!

Robbie is just scary to me!!

The twins were ridiculous & made such fools of themselves! So sad because I liked them before!

Ben Z is such a good guy!! He is one of the few from the past that I don't mind seeing on a show like this. Matt was the same for me, to endure the pushy ways of Jasmine!!! I do not know how he did it, honestly!! I was so glad when he left!

Diggy was sweet but silly not choosing Domenique! IMO

I wish the two couples the best, rooting for Derek & Taylor (he posted something sweet on IG, and Vanessa commented... He replied to her: "I will take good care of her V" - I thought it was so nice!)

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If Jack Stone needs a woman, I'm here.

I'm finally relieved I don't have to hear those fools make fun of Kristen.

I definitely loved Derek's proposal. There might have been some tears shed.

MiaHawk wrote:I'm confused...On BIP Dean cried after he let Kristina go because he realized the next day that he "loved" her.  He is riddled with guilt, so he tells DLothat he wants to end it on the final day because he still has feelings for Kristina. Ok.

But after BIP did Dean actually date DLo? And did Kristina say that after BIP that Dean called her or wanted to date her too? He was pursuing both girls after BIP?!

Then in the Ellen clip, Kristina says that she might consider taking him back if he had learned from his mistake?!  When was Ellen taped? Before or after the BIP finale was taped? I think that at this point both girls should have learned that Dean is not to be trusted. He is like a kid in a candy store. Not ready in the last to be in a committed monogamous relationship, IMO.

Pretty sure DLo has already ditched his azz - possibly for a while now - and good for her. Not sure about Kristina though. He seems to continue toying with her and she seems the type that would fall for it, and head straight back into the mess.I wouldn't be surprised if they've started hooking up again. If so, they deserve each other. JMO.

That Ellen appearance was taped recently.

GuardianAngel wrote:My opinion of Dean is neutral. I don't think one way or another of him. I personally think he's a messed up kid. That's how I saw him in Rachel's season and now on BIP.

I don't understand really caring for someone and falling in love, and playing with someone else because she's hot.

I ended up feeling neutral about him as well. I remember someone connected with the show (was it Chris H.?) saying on Rachel's season that Dean is immature. We saw a little of it on R.'s season, and a lot of it on BiP. It's not his fault, he just has the emotional maturity level of your average middle-school boy. I'm sure that he also has aspects of his personality that are appealing (I saw bits of that on R.'s season,) but overall, he's nowhere near ready for a serious relationship. He's going to wreck a lot of hearts along the way, Kristina's being one of them. DLo at least has the emotional strength to deal with a man like him.

I think that Christen walking into the ocean and enjoying her last day in Paradise was one of the most sensible things I have seen on this show. I would have done the same thing. I wish, however, that she had gone out on the date with Jack Stone. I think the prospect of the fantasy suite was worrying her, but she's familiar enough with this show to know that she doesn't need to do that. Jack is a good catch and might have been worth a longer look.

Ben Z. and his dog were the cutest! I hope that he finds his person.

I.hope.We.see.more.of.Jack

Adam shows far more emotion than Raven - I was like does she really like him - can she show it? I thought it was strange having him meet her parents on TV but Adam appeared to embrace it! His edit and Jack Stone's showed they are men of substance.

Amethyst wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:My opinion of Dean is neutral. I don't think one way or another of him. I personally think he's a messed up kid. That's how I saw him in Rachel's season and now on BIP.

I don't understand really caring for someone and falling in love, and playing with someone else because she's hot.

I ended up feeling neutral about him as well. I remember someone connected with the show (was it Chris H.?) saying on Rachel's season that Dean is immature. We saw a little of it on R.'s season, and a lot of it on BiP. It's not his fault, he just has the emotional maturity level of your average middle-school boy. I'm sure that he also has aspects of his personality that are appealing (I saw bits of that on R.'s season,) but overall, he's nowhere near ready for a serious relationship. He's going to wreck a lot of hearts along the way, Kristina's being one of them. DLo at least has the emotional strength to deal with a man like him.

I think that Christen walking into the ocean and enjoying her last day in Paradise was one of the most sensible things I have seen on this show. I would have done the same thing. I wish, however, that she had gone out on the date with Jack Stone. I think the prospect of the fantasy suite was worrying her, but she's familiar enough with this show to know that she doesn't need to do that. Jack is a good catch and might have been worth a longer look.

Ben Z. and his dog were the cutest! I hope that he finds his person.

I just didn't understand what looked to me like horror from Christen when Jack suggested they leave "hand-in-hand."  He only wanted to date post-show - not jump into bed with her or marry her tomorrow.  I really felt badly for him with the way she reacted.  Hopefully women are throwing themselves at him now and he's having his own personal Bachelor season.

Taylor and Derek were cute. Imo they came across as authentic, real, and an actual couple. The proposal was cute.

Other than that, I had no interest.

I'm amazed no one has brought up that Amanda has posted the pic of Robby kissing that girl. I secretly hope she posts all the pics and videos of him with other girls while they were apparently dating.

IDK. I thought that entire dating thing was a ruse to extend both of their brands, so maybe that's why I'm not outraged. I actually think her posting anything that takes from that is stupid. Unless you go by the adage any publicity is good publicity, then the bad is also good.