Bachelor In Paradise - Season 4 - Episodes - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #3

Well acc to RS coumn today, he said just as I thought, they are just friends and the kiss was done just for TV...

He also said adam and raven & Derek & taylor are still together.

ElonM wrote:Wells and Danielle are dating?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYHqOi9hlT4/?taken-by=carlywad

Evan had something on SM a week or so ago about wanting Wells and Dani together but first Wells had to be TB! IMO they make a great couple.

Duke702 wrote:I'm still not a fan of Carly and Evan. I know they are married and having a baby. But I just can't help but think she settled for him just for a ring, marriage, kids etc. She was repulsed by him, and very cruel with what she said about him at first. I know Evan laughs about it now, but Carly just seems really into the whole BIP "success story" and the attention. 

I feel like Ben Z. is just really awkward with women, or he doesn't know how to flirt? Not sure, but he hasn't had a girlfriend since Kaitlyn's season 2 years ago. I'm sure there are tons of girls who would love to date him, not sure why he hasn't met someone. 

I find the whole Danielle M. and Wells storyline hard to believe. They have known each other for years, live in the same town, I just feel like if they were into each other they could already be dating. I just fell like the whole kiss was forced. I doubt they will date IRL. Seemed like it was just for a storyline IMO. 

What is up with all these guys being douches? Diggy seemed like he liked Lacey, and were all over each other making out. Then he tells Dom that there was nothing there? What? They realize they are on a show right, people can see that they are lying. Just like Dean told Kristina, that him and DLo had no romance and had just a peck. So dumb. 

It's weird how they are barely showing Amanda at all. I'm not a fan of Taylor and Derek. Taylor drives me crazy. Her personality is so snobby and annoying. She just seems like she thinks she is so great/smart/pretty....I don't really get why Derek just attached himself to her so quick. Don't get what he sees in her.

That really bothered me. If Diggy had said, "Lacey and I had a great time, but I am open to exploring other relationships, and I am very excited to get to know you better," I would have respected him more. But to put down his date with Lacey was needlessly cruel. I think he did enjoy the date very much, it's just that Dominique checked off more of his boxes.

OK, this whole interview with DLo is annoying. She sounds so dumb IMO. I don't believe her whole spiel about "just wanting a fun relationship" Dean and her are kindred spirits? Get over yourself girl. Def seems like a dig to Kristina.  Oh and acc to her, she and Kristina are not and never were friends.

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/danielle-lombard-talks-dean-unglert-bip-love-triangle-w499253

So, Danielle hosted a watch party in Nashville last night to benefit the Lwala Community Alliance, a charity which delivers health care to needy children in Africa. Per reports, some BN attendees included Wells, Evan, Carly, Christen, Alex B., James Taylor, Dean, and Kristina.

Facebook: Lwala Community Alliance

What I want to know is, WTF was Dean doing there? I could understand if the watch party was almost anyplace else -- L.A., Chicago, Dallas, Miami, sure. But attending a BN party on Kristina's home turf seems clueless to me. Why isn't he giving her some much needed space?

Amethyst wrote:So, Danielle hosted a watch party in Nashville last night to benefit the Lwala Community Alliance, a charity which delivers health care to needy children in Africa. Per reports, some BN attendees included Wells, Evan, Carly, Christen, Alex B., James Taylor, Dean, and Kristina.

Facebook: Lwala Community Alliance

What I want to know is, WTF was Dean doing there? I could understand if the watch party was almost anyplace else -- L.A., Chicago, Dallas, Miami, sure. But attending a BN party on Kristina's home turf seems clueless to me. Why isn't he giving her some much needed space?

I was actually happy to see that they could put their personal drama aside to support each other and give to charity. ❤

Duke702 wrote:OK, this whole interview with DLo is annoying. She sounds so dumb IMO. I don't believe her whole spiel about "just wanting a fun relationship" Dean and her are kindred spirits? Get over yourself girl. Def seems like a dig to Kristina.  Oh and acc to her, she and Kristina are not and never were friends.

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/danielle-lombard-talks-dean-unglert-bip-love-triangle-w499253

IMO she doesn't sound "dumb" at all and is really straightforward/to the point. I do believe the fun/laid back relationship thing because I've always gotten that vibe from DLo. She even literally said on Nick's season that she's always been hesitant to jump in too quickly and is a bit more guarded (paraphrased). I also didn't interpret her words as a dig at Kristina - just stating her view of the situation.

TheWrongReasons wrote:

Duke702 wrote:OK, this whole interview with DLo is annoying. She sounds so dumb IMO. I don't believe her whole spiel about "just wanting a fun relationship" Dean and her are kindred spirits? Get over yourself girl. Def seems like a dig to Kristina.  Oh and acc to her, she and Kristina are not and never were friends.

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/danielle-lombard-talks-dean-unglert-bip-love-triangle-w499253

IMO she doesn't sound "dumb" at all and is really straightforward/to the point. I do believe the fun/laid back relationship thing because I've always gotten that vibe from DLo. She even literally said on Nick's season that she's always been hesitant to jump in too quickly and is a bit more guarded (paraphrased). I also didn't interpret her words as a dig at Kristina - just stating her view of the situation.

I agree, if anything she is just telling it as it is. It is certainly coming across that way, in that she is having fun and seeing where things go - I'm just taking it as her being upfront and realistic about the situation.

Now if she was claiming she wasn't friends (or close friends) with someone like Jas / Raven, then I would call it BS, but I don't find it hard to believe that she may not actually be buddies/BFFs with Kristina. The interactions we've seen of them off-camera seems to be in a group setting with other Bach alum - so an 'acquaintance of convenience' perhaps?  

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Jorge's great, but in this case he needed to introduce the beach, point them towards lunch, and take a step back.

I agree that D Lo is the fun/laid back type when it comes to relationships with men, and this is why she works well for Dean. I don't think she's dumb at all. IMO she's a go-getter and an entrepreneurial type, and that appeals to a lot of men. Girl knows how to make a buck!

summerdayze wrote:

TheWrongReasons wrote:

Duke702 wrote:OK, this whole interview with DLo is annoying. She sounds so dumb IMO. I don't believe her whole spiel about "just wanting a fun relationship" Dean and her are kindred spirits? Get over yourself girl. Def seems like a dig to Kristina.  Oh and acc to her, she and Kristina are not and never were friends.

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/danielle-lombard-talks-dean-unglert-bip-love-triangle-w499253

IMO she doesn't sound "dumb" at all and is really straightforward/to the point. I do believe the fun/laid back relationship thing because I've always gotten that vibe from DLo. She even literally said on Nick's season that she's always been hesitant to jump in too quickly and is a bit more guarded (paraphrased). I also didn't interpret her words as a dig at Kristina - just stating her view of the situation.

I agree, if anything she is just telling it as it is. It is certainly coming across that way, in that she is having fun and seeing where things go - I'm just taking it as her being upfront and realistic about the situation.

Now if she was claiming she wasn't friends (or close friends) with someone like Jas / Raven, then I would call it BS, but I don't find it hard to believe that she may not actually be buddies/BFFs with Kristina. The interactions we've seen of them off-camera seems to be in a group setting with other Bach alum - so an 'acquaintance of convenience' perhaps?  

Amethyst wrote:Jorge's great, but in this case he needed to introduce the beach, point them towards lunch, and take a step back.

I agree that D Lo is the fun/laid back type when it comes to relationships with men, and this is why she works well for Dean. I don't think she's dumb at all. IMO she's a go-getter and an entrepreneurial type, and that appeals to a lot of men. Girl knows how to make a buck!

@summerdayze @Amethyst ITA

Amethyst wrote:

Duke702 wrote:I'm still not a fan of Carly and Evan. I know they are married and having a baby. But I just can't help but think she settled for him just for a ring, marriage, kids etc. She was repulsed by him, and very cruel with what she said about him at first. I know Evan laughs about it now, but Carly just seems really into the whole BIP "success story" and the attention. 

I feel like Ben Z. is just really awkward with women, or he doesn't know how to flirt? Not sure, but he hasn't had a girlfriend since Kaitlyn's season 2 years ago. I'm sure there are tons of girls who would love to date him, not sure why he hasn't met someone. 

I find the whole Danielle M. and Wells storyline hard to believe. They have known each other for years, live in the same town, I just feel like if they were into each other they could already be dating. I just fell like the whole kiss was forced. I doubt they will date IRL. Seemed like it was just for a storyline IMO. 

What is up with all these guys being douches? Diggy seemed like he liked Lacey, and were all over each other making out. Then he tells Dom that there was nothing there? What? They realize they are on a show right, people can see that they are lying. Just like Dean told Kristina, that him and DLo had no romance and had just a peck. So dumb. 

It's weird how they are barely showing Amanda at all. I'm not a fan of Taylor and Derek. Taylor drives me crazy. Her personality is so snobby and annoying. She just seems like she thinks she is so great/smart/pretty....I don't really get why Derek just attached himself to her so quick. Don't get what he sees in her.

That really bothered me. If Diggy had said, "Lacey and I had a great time, but I am open to exploring other relationships, and I am very excited to get to know you better," I would have respected him more. But to put down his date with Lacey was needlessly cruel. I think he did enjoy the date very much, it's just that Dominique checked off more of his boxes.

I like Carly and Evan because once she had a reality check, Carly realized Evan was a great guy who would feel honored to have her, IMO. She didn't settle at all, IMO she found a man who loved her, honored that, loved him for loving her, married him and is having his baby. That makes her smarter than every woman who has wasted her life waiting for a
dream that will never happen. She won and is living the dream because she was realistic and smart.JMO

Ben Z is a huge disappointment because he is this big, beautiful man who's in love with his dog and can't stop talking about it. It makes him 100% unappealing, boring and neutralizes his sex appeal, IMO The worst part is no one cares enough to tell him.

For Danielle and Wells - friends who care about and respect each other as friends first, fall in love and marry and live happily ever after all the time. Those relationships often have built in strength and endurance because they are built on the strongest foundation of all - a loving friendship IMO.

Taylor IS very smart and pretty, IMO. Derek doesn't see what people who don't care for her see, he sees what she shows him because they are still early in their relationship. Eventually he will see more but, by then - she will have hooked him if she knows what she's doing. Besides, men value different characteristics in women than other women do and as long as they see those things (initially physical, also warmth, support, attention, affection-things that distinguish us as women). Men don't care about petty things that drive women to distraction. Any time a woman measures another woman by what she herself likes, she is guaranteed to underestimate her and not get what men see in her. It's important to remember, he is a MAN. As such, he has different priorities and what other women think of his love interest generally matters not, IMO.

Diggy and Dean are not talking to the audience/camera. They are talking to the woman in front of them and saying what they think they need to say to move their agenda forward, IMO. At their core, based upon the oldest game in the history of the world, men are predators, the girl they are most attracted to is the prey - nothing new there - on the contrary, this artificial timeframe, new additions and the rose power plus, the threat of being sent home places the normal games of nature on steroids, IMO. I'd be having fun with this show if they'd forget about all this Demario/Corinne sideshow.