Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 9 - July 24 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

bleuberry wrote:But.... it didn't help that Juan Pablo was kind of a jerk . JMO.

See I saw JPG as real and Peter as a big jerk. It is all in the perspective. JMO.

on another note, i really liked the Bryan i've seen with her friends and family.

Poised, understanding of other skepticism but firm in what he is feeling and where he wants it to go with Rachel.
Like Rachel said, I'm proud of him

HEA wrote:peter is another kind of jerk but a jerk nonetheless....................

I've softened on JP but there were things he said and did that were never going to make him sympathetic. Unlike Peter who many seem to be rallying around. I get why Rachel would be pissed. The edit is making her look dumb and gullible . JMO .

bleuberry wrote:

HEA wrote:peter is another kind of jerk but a jerk nonetheless....................

I've softened on JP but there were things he said and did that were never going to make him sympathetic. Unlike Peter who many seem to be rallying around. I get why Rachel would be pissed. The edit is making her look dumb and gullible . JMO .

it'Z okay......

Pattycake92 wrote:I feel like Peter is being genuine. What, does anyone think he's lying when he says he's not ready to propose?  He's basically told her it AIN'T happening and she still won't send him home. At least he didn't lie till the end and then walk away. I think he looks pretty upset next week at the thought of losing her, but he's not in love with her enough to compromise. I'm not sure this setting is the right place for him to find a wife as much as I would love for him to be TB.

With regards to Rachel not sending him home, why hasn't he just walked away? Unless someone's been dangling the bachelor carrot in front of him.
Regardless, somebody has to be taken to the F2 so there's that. The show would be over in about 6 episodes otherwise, especially when it comes to the last few b'ettes being all in with their F1 from the start.

So over this crapfest, but apparently not as much as Big Rach and Bryan.  For the first time in a while, I'm looking forward to the AFTR.  

Still firmly team anyone but Peter, Dean or Ben for bachelor unless those are our only options.  Then it's Benji all day, everyday.

JMO

Alanna wrote:WHAT Bryan? Mom is #1? Not a good idea to say that

Leave and cleave, dude!

Sounds like I missed a doozy of a show tonight! Big Rach defending her man to the fam bam!

TB made JPG look a lot worse and played on his not the greatest English at times.  IMO

My last wish for this night is for Kaitlyn to steal Peter's key and get his wine. Night all.

djogbenyuie wrote:I'm probably going to repeat myself but for me it's not even about engagement or not at this point.
I have seen many overseas series and even for those who don't do the engagement thing at the end, you can totally see the love when it's there.
I wish viewers just  realize it is NOT there.

JMO

Australia shows and New Zealand shows there is NO engagement but no doubt to me I could see even the most reserved contestant when they fell in love it was super obvious.

I don't see it with Peter at all.

Peter's reservation has nothing to do with the engagement/proposal IMO but rather that he isn't into Rachel.

It's why for me I think Peter is using the proposal thing as an excuse!

JMO

BlackHalo wrote:IMO if you aren't ready to do the irrational thing and get engaged on the show, you simply aren't that into the lead. That is what the show is and Peter knew that coming in. I wish viewers would realize this instead of guilting Rachel for expecting a proposal.

I'm definitely not guilting Rachel for wanting what every Bachelorette goes on the show for. She shouldn't have to compromise any more than Peter, which is why they weren't right for each other. It is what it is. And I agree that Peter just wasn't fully into Rachel. If she was the right woman for him, she wouldn't be happily engaged to Bryan right now. I don't know how much Peter's hesitation has to do with the time frame and how much it is about Rachel just not being the one for him. I for one don't see how he's playing games or pushing and pulling. He said he was falling in love, which Rachel said right back at him while she already seems gone for Bryan, so that just shows how little that phrase really means. It's still a million miles away from actually being in love, never mind to the extent that you're 100% sure you want to spend forever with that person. Any normal person would struggle with the idea of proposing when they're not even in love yet. Maybe he should have left, but I think he's been as honest as can be about where he's at, so if he wants to keep enjoying the free travel and possibility of being the lead next season, then I can't blame him. JMO.

I actually think the edit is making her look more relatable. I like her more this season than last season. I liked her last season, just more this season. And for the most part, as a lead she has fared pretty pretty well with TPTB. The worst part of the ride has been the crappy seasonal interruptions in scheduling. JMO