Bachelor Australia - Season 5 - Matty Johnson - Media Social Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

ssin0547 wrote:http://www.961.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-gossip/bachie-reject-belinda-is-not-holding-back-about-the-show/

This interview states that Belinda thinks Laura is F1 but it was posted elsewhere that she thinks Elise is F1?

OK Mag is doing the exit interviews this year so here is the link for Belinda's that I already posted. Akoulina also did her exit interview with OK Mag. I have no idea the context of that radio interview she did so would love to listen what what was said to her and how Laura's name came about.
http://www.nowtolove.com.au/celebrity/tv/the-bachelor-australia-belinda-happy-to-leave-39736

mercieme wrote:

ssin0547 wrote:http://www.961.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-gossip/bachie-reject-belinda-is-not-holding-back-about-the-show/

This interview states that Belinda thinks Laura is F1 but it was posted elsewhere that she thinks Elise is F1?

OK Mag is doing the exit interviews this year so here is the link for Belinda's that I already posted. Akoulina also did her exit interview with OK Mag. I have no idea the context of that radio interview she did so would love to listen what what was said to her and how Laura's name came about.
http://www.nowtolove.com.au/celebrity/tv/the-bachelor-australia-belinda-happy-to-leave-39736

The fact that Belinda would pick Elise makes me think either:
A. the girls have been instructed who to say they think will win, regardless of their actual opinion; or
B. there is way more going on between Elise and Matty than we have been shown since, if genuine, she would be basing her opinion on what she saw in the house up until the point she left.  
I think it's probably B. because I don't actually think Elise looked that worried at the end of the last rose ceremony.  She looked quietly confident to me.
Also while we're on the topic, I notice they replayed the start of Elise's "second point" - that she was going to tell Matty before Leah interrupted - at the start of last episode.  
I can't remember what it was now but need to go back and listen because I think it may be significant.  That interruption seemed timed to me - it looked like she was expecting it.
I'm expecting that when she does actually get time with Matty he may ask her what her second point was and she will say something significant that changes the course of her edit.
JMO

The reason why I like tracking who the girls are picking is because it provides another perspective IMO that is un-edited. To the best of my knowledge production does not tell them what to say. Even in the US franchise with spoilers consistently out, we still get eliminated contestants picking the spoiled person as the winner a lot and that's one reason why I believe producers could care less who the eliminated contestants pick as the F1...jmo.

If that's the case, Belinda has seen a lot that we haven't, IMO.   I don't think anyone in their right mind would pick Elise as F1 if there was as little between them as we've been led to believe. So clearly, there's much more to this than meets the eye, IMO.

I think any eliminated contestants that mention Elise for possible F1 are spoiled. I say this because the same thing happened last year with G's season and early eliminated contestants mentioning Matty for F1 and he had not even had a real SD at that time. Even more so for Elise, she hasn't had a SD yet either and I don't think any eliminated contestants saw much in the mansion to come to a conclusion of Elise being F1 without inside info.

The things Belinda are saying sound very insightful IMO....as I would think she wouldn't go in depth in analyzing the connections if she was just going off hearsay. I was piqued by what she said because posters @Sundy and @Storybook have posted similar thoughts....all jmo though.

Here is another interview Belinda did with PopSugar where she talked about front runners.

PS: How did you find the girls in general? Do you have any frontrunners?

Belinda:Well I thought I was a front — [laughs] no. I speak to all the girls. There are some that I will speak to more than others. Like Nat, I love her. Cobie is a very good friend. Akoulina is a very good friend. Who else? Stacey as well . . . They've just got good hearts and they've got a quirkiness that I can relate to, because I'm a bit quirky. The experience we've shared, you can not share that with anyone else so we have a bond. I think Elise is a frontrunner. He and her are very compatible compared to . . . well, with Laura he was compatible but I feel like there's a bit more independence going inside Laura that he might not want.
Elise has the femininity as well as the independence.
Source

Yeah I am not buying what Belinda is saying specifically her saying "Elise is a frontrunner". Um, no, she's not.

And while it could be said that perhaps Belinda saw something in the house, I don't buy that either considering she is eliminated and the time Matty would have spent with Elise at that point would have been minuscule compared to the others who have already had SDs. So no way that Elise would be considered a "frontrunner" in the house or on the show at that point imo compared to those others.

I think Belinda is using insider info and hindsight. If Belinda knows the ending, then I think she is constructing her narrative based on that (which I have no doubt she does, they all do IMO just like every other season the contestants all knew the ending no matter what they spun to the media).

And I say this because if Elise was eliminated at F7 and not spoiled to be in F2, I don't for one second buy that Belinda would be pushing a narrative of Elise, who has been MIA as some sort of "frontrunner". So to me, it's more spoiler info based than anything else, IMO.  

I also find Belinda's POV on Elise to be something that literally could be taken from Elise's bio - with Elise sharing same interests, same career, and even viewpoint on past relationships (timing being a factor). While I can agree with that, and already posted the same in Elise's thread, the whole thing about Belinda saying Laura has independence that Matty may not want? While I can see that in some way, I find that really odd wording, especially using the word "femininity" as something that is not part of independence. What archaic type of thinking on Belinda's part IMO, regardless of whether it may be the case, I don't see femininity and independence as mutually exclusive things.

Belinda may have worded it wrongly but what I got from what she said was one may not be as ready to settle down versus the other (which is what others have posted about here too). IA though that she could have used a better word. Even reading Laura's interview in Cosmo, I got the same vibe about her so I wasn't surprised that Belinda harped on the independence shtick for her.

Will continue to track who the eliminated girls choose in their OK mag interviews. Tara seems to be quite popular in the house so IMO some of the girls may drop her name also, should be interesting how the tally breaks down before we get to last 5 of the F7 girls which obviously spent the most time together...jmo.

I can agree with Belinda's POV myself since I don't really see a match with Laura in real life. While I can see on paper what would make Elise a match I still think Belinda saying Elise is a frontrunner and possible F1 is insider info/spoilers.

That's the key for me is that Belinda saying Elise is a frontrunner when I don't see how Elise would be - on the show or at that time of filming. 

I don't think for a minute that without the spoiler via media or sleuthed info that Elise would be seen as an F1 at this point of the show, she is a MOT based on non-spoiled. 

That's why I find it interesting Belinda is making a case for Elise. Seems like the wheels are moving for a dark-horse/slow-burn narrative already 

After the season is over, the number one question I would like Matty to answer is when Elise popped on his radar that is if he does not answer this in his ITMs shown during the episodes. Clearly they had CP conversations that were cut out and then we have that Extra clip on Ten Play that @Bobette summarized upthread with Stringy the stylist talking about how Matty was wowed by Elise's dress....why the heck they cut all these moments out for a riduculous dark horse/slow burn edit when we could have just had little glimpses of their interactions is a bit annoying IMO. I am keen to see the SM reaction when Elise comes to the forefront. Now that I think about it if Matty is shown using the word slow burn or dark horse to describe Elise in the ITMs we are shown then his post show interviews where he used the same lingo will be a massive clue IMO on how this season shakes down....all jmo though.

Aaarghh. This is starting to feel like peter-bryan..... I really wish now I hadn't been aware of the bettors odds and other spoilers, cause I jumped aboard the good ship Laura, and now am feeling like I might have been duped. But so far at least both seem like nice girls. Darn you tptb!!!

One thing for sure.... I seem to be needing a daily matty fix.... Thank goodness for vids of Georgia's season. I just re watched the trapeze date, so awesome....

@Billysmom....all the F7 girls seem lovely IMO so I believe Matty has a good bunch to choose from. I personally don't like jumping on any ship; I just want Matty to be happy & also demandTPTB show me the love story....that's all I want every season  Hang on tight though, I think in the next 2 weeks after all the F7 hopefully are done with their SDs, we can get a better idea of how this will shake out; that is whether the front runner or dark horse will be the love story TPTB chooses to focus on or maybe they show both & it's a race to the finish line