Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #7

Yea I'm not sure why he is moving - he could even move in with fam or friends for the meantime while he's doing the "roadshow". I'm sure they would be happy to have him. The confusing thing in this is we will really have no idea where his homebase is going to be. He now officially becomes unpredictable and a nomad.

The roadshow also seems a bit out of the blue tbh... it's been only a month since he got back. Wouldn't a program like that require a bit of legwork? Wouldn't he need some sort of space to do the trainings and if so wouldn't there be some legwork required to get subscription lists up, do some promotion ahead of the first location - or will he just rent the spaces and maybe cos of that added cost he's trying to save money on rent?

I find everything happing all at the same time to be confusing - I mean he just posted the tbt post with the announcement this week!

all imo

IMO, needing a storage unit means he will be moving his things permanently in a short to mid-term time frame, but he either a) isn't sure where yet or b) can't move until a specified date in the future.

Renee-I thought that until yesterday but now I'm having second thoughts. For myself, I'll enjoy him as the next lead 'serious issues' and all!

Cila51290 wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:If Peter is F2 at the end of all this then going by his SM activity I think he has some serious issues. #robbywho 


jmo

Why would he have issues? It only looks that way for die-hard sleuthing fans of this show, IMO. To other's probably nothing. JMO

I disagree that it only looks that way to die-hard sleuthing fans. In fact, I'd say the opposite considering I personally know at least 5 people who are watching this show for the first time ever and none of them sleuth at all and are not even aware of this forum. All of them however have followed Peter on his IG and ALL of them have told me that they think he is going to win because of his likes and specifically stating no guy if he doesn't win would be liking those types of things and if he did they would think he's totally crazy. And these are non-spoiled non-sleuthers saying this. So again, if Peter is F2 and not F1 then yes I do think he has some serious issues with his SM activity and yes I do know that those who are not die-hards will see it that way.


jmo

Lost17 wrote:Renee-I thought that until yesterday but now I'm having second thoughts. For myself, I'll enjoy him as the next lead 'serious issues' and all!

I don't think he has 'serious issues' it's not that deep for me He's either trolling or he's F1. Either way, all in good fun at this point IMO

umngirl wrote:

emusha wrote:woah that's big - no wonder he's spending lots of time with his friends... before he's off on the road. if he's going to move from his apartment he'll be on the road most of the time -- if he was f2 wouldn't he want a homebase to come back to?? I have no recollection of any that made f3 moving out of their apartment prior to the finale! I say it's actually an indication that he's getting ready to move from madison for realz. Whether that be to rachel or not.

wow jmo

Not that it's the same but Sean moved into a new apartment not long after returning from filming Emily's season.

Maybe his lease is just up and he's moving? Wouldn't be the strangest thing to move just because circumstances make you. Lol

Probably not the same as Peter, but iirc Drew moved to CA during the airing of Des' season also.

@emusha right even if it was something he was planning for ages, I would think there would be way more time/promotion needed.

AllAboutLove wrote:

Cila51290 wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:If Peter is F2 at the end of all this then going by his SM activity I think he has some serious issues. #robbywho 


jmo

Why would he have issues? It only looks that way for die-hard sleuthing fans of this show, IMO. To other's probably nothing. JMO

I disagree that it only looks that way to die-hard sleuthing fans. In fact, I'd say the opposite considering I personally know at least 5 people who are watching this show for the first time ever and none of them sleuth at all and are not even aware of this forum. All of them however have followed Peter on his IG and ALL of them have told me that they think he is going to win because of his likes and specifically stating no guy if he doesn't win would be liking those types of things and if he did they would think he's totally crazy. And these are non-spoiled non-sleuthers saying this. So again, if Peter is F2 and not F1 then yes I do think he has some serious issues with his SM activity and yes I do know that those who are not die-hards will see it that way.


jmo

Serious issues is bold, imo. I'd say he was just making this a fun experience for everyone whether F2 or F1. If anyone feels offended that he led them on then that's their own prerogative, imo. At the end of the day, this is just a tv show to entertain people.

ReneeM wrote:

Lost17 wrote:Renee-I thought that until yesterday but now I'm having second thoughts. For myself, I'll enjoy him as the next lead 'serious issues' and all!

I don't think he has 'serious issues' it's not that deep for me He's either trolling or he's F1. Either way, all in good fun at this point IMO

Exactly, I don't believe it either! I was just referring to AllAboutLove and the way she keeps saying it. We all see it differently...I'm in the all in good fun camp.

My guess is his lease is up June 30.   And with his expansion to different cities he knows he will not be in Madison long-term. Therefore she is moving out probably to live with family or friends for a little while Madison prior to starting the roadshow for Worth. All imo

Tiggerlgh wrote:My guess is his lease is up June 30.   And with his expansion to different cities he knows he will not be in Madison long-term. Therefore she is moving out probably to live with family or friends for a little while Madison prior to starting the roadshow for Worth.  All imo

I was thinking similar. Maybe his lease is up June 30th. GMTA.

Carine wrote:@emusha right even if it was something he was planning for ages, I would think there would be way more time/promotion needed.

exactly... it all feels VERY sudden and that feels like something worth understanding.

I do think though the past few weekends he's been making deliberate plans to spend time with his friends. He was with his friend who's his goddaughter's father, this week he was with mikka and the other girls, I believe there were 2 other dudes he hung out with a few weeks ago. I do get that he likely missed them cos he'd been away for long but it also feels a bit like he was using his weekends to really make his rounds and touch base with friends which imo indicates that he might have known that he wouldn't be in town for too long.

I also find the apt moving bit interesting cos most apt's you need to give a month's notice to move out of your place (I assume he rents we have no evidence of him owning a home where he was living, right?) So then that comes to - well he told his landloard month's notice for moving out at the beginning of June which is right after filming ended... it also means he kept his apartment while he was away during filming. It seems a bit farfetched to say that he kept his apartment all through filming only to move out of it a month after getting back. Cos if he knew he was leaving to do a roadshow prior to going on filming then why didn't he try to move out prior to filming? Save a lot of money I'm sure.

Unless his lease ended perfectly at the time when he was going to move and then that just sounds very coincidental. what are the chances that some other plan - filming ending and him starting a roadshow would align perfectly with when his lease would end?

Also there were summer bootcamps that Worth is running where Peter is involved in ALL of the sessions (http://www.worthpersonaltraining.com/schedule.html) running Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs!  And it is supposedly running during the summer. I am assuming that they would continue that service so a shift for Peter away from spending time on those to spending time on the roadshow will mean a huge move for the company and it's employees. It is a clear shift in priorities from deepening roots in one client base to expanding and building brand new client base locations. huge risky move and needs months and months of effort to really gather momentum with real customer conversion.

With all these factors considered I'd say that these moves were planned within the last month and after filming wrapped. IMO these pieces of info add up to - peter made the plans after he came back to madison from filming. He set things into motion when he came back and it seemed clear what he was going to do from that point on including meeting up with friends. For me the speed and resolute focus with which he's making such huge steps shows a guy who knows exactly what he's doing and why he's doing it.

The speed at which it's all happening make me think that it points more towards the relationship being a motivator because
1) if he's f2 and doing tb he'd have to drop all of this to go straight into filming the show which means it would be wasted energy cos the real business returns will come in the follow up from those events/attendees/relationships, the moment would be wasted
2) if he's f2 and not doing tb then he could take a bit more time to start building momentum, relationships in diff cities, getting some promotion time, just getting things in order rather than abruptly moving from madison a month from filming wrapping
3) If he's f2 why wouldn't he sublease his apartment and go on the roadshow, see how things go and have a flexibility of returning back. Peter's moved to many places in the past and I believe that would have given him some savvy on making moving arrangements that are smooth, considering all the pros/cons.

On the flip side
1) if he's f1 he wants to start establishing the contacts and credibility/brand in new places asap cos he'll be moving out of state where a majority of his customer base is
2) if he's f1 it's benefitial for him to take on the risk of leaving the bootcamp and building the clientele to his other colleagues cos he's not trying to deepen roots in madison rather he's focused on really expanding to new places...the risk would be higher if he just stays in madison and doesn't have brand/credibility in the new location(s) he wants to be able to bring his services
3) if he's f1 he won't need an apartment to come back to cos he'd be moving to be with his fiance (he'd said he wants to move from madison anyway)


all IMO