Bachelor Australia - Season 5 - Matty Johnson - Screencaps - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - Discussion

@mercieme Thank you so much for your vote of confidence

Rather bizarre to me how Elise is being so well hidden

@Storybook...IA but even more bizarre IMO is why Matty unsolicited started talked about slow burns in his interviews...which IMO implies he was providing the narrative of his season for "some girls" as he called them but the most hidden so far as we know is Elise so yeah the slow burn narrative dropped by Matty was IMO about Elise.

mercieme wrote:@Storybook...IA but even more bizarre IMO is why Matty unsolicited started talked about slow burns in his interviews...which IMO implies he was providing the narrative of his season for "some girls" as he called them but the most hidden so far as we know is Elise so yeah the slow burn narrative dropped by Matty was IMO about Elise.

Excellent point and I agree 100% with your opinion.
In past series it hasn't always been completely obvious who would win on night one. Excepting of course with Lee, Sasha and Alex (who received the WR, thankfully missing this season). But still the winner was always noticed. My son texted me to ask who Elise was after I had talked her up, as she wasn't even seen!! In all series the producers have gone for the shock factor in the FRC. This year will be no different. So the question is, who is the going to be the shock winner. Laura or Elise?
Laura's broken heart and not being able to open up because of hurt will be played up big time IMO (evidenced by her white board being the one one seen). If Matty doesn't choose Laura will this be the backlash he is worried about?

Storybook wrote:I have listened over and over to the voice overs and the following are my guesses:
Florence and Elora's accents are heard several times.
Florence has the bungy jumping date (arm tattoo) and I think the helicopter ride (Matty made special reference to doing a helicopter ride again in one of his interviews)
Tara is also heard several times. I think she says 'I want you at the end of this'.
Laura's deeper voice speaks about not wanting to get hurt and opening up. I believe she says 'I am falling in love with you."
I am not certain if Laura or Elise ask 'What makes you happy' I think it is Elise.
Elise is the other voice featured prominently. To me she is the one saying 'I see myself falling in love with you.' And also "I am in love with you."

Adding my guesses about the voiceovers.  

The bolded are ones I am almost certain about.

Elora is an easy one.  Thanks for casting someone with an accent, TPTB!  

IMO Elora says
"I really like him, already"
and
"I couldn't ask for any more"

Tara also has a very distinctive voice.  IMO she definitely says:
"I don't want to go home"
and possibly
"I want you at the end of this"

IMO it's Florence who says:
"You never know for sure if this is going to work out"
and
and possibly
"I see myself falling in love with you"

Laura has a lilting voice; she often goes up at the end of a sentence.  IMO she says:
"He's just amazing"
and
"There is a very good chance that I'm going to be hurt in this"
and possibly
"I am falling in love with you"
But this is said over footage of them together - this seems too obvious so I'm wondering if that could actually be Elise.

It's Elise's voice I hear most.  IMO it's her who says:
"I'm blown away"
and
"He's worth the risk of being really hurt".  
and
"I think this is worth fighting for"
and
"What makes you happy?"
Significantly - Matty's reply of "you make me happy" seems genuine IMO and not a frankenbyte

Then there's someone with a higher voice who says:
"I am in love with you" right at the end.

I think this voice could potentially be a red herring as it doesn't sound like any of the Top 4 to me.  I think it might be someone from earlier on.  Also it sounds disjointed, like there was another part of the sentence cut off, e.g. "[I love you as a person but I can't say] I am in love with you," or something like that.

Still unsure about these lines:
"He's really sweet, he's funny, he's the full package" - this voice has a slight NZ accent to me.  I'm wondering if it's one of the MOT girls, maybe Michelle?

"I do find it hard to open up to someone" - the voice sounds like Elise but she seems like a very open person which makes me doubt she would say something like this.

"I feel heartbroken" could be Tara but not 100% sure.

"This is real" could be Elora or Florence IMO

I think it's noteworthy that when Osher says "true love finally prevails" he is speaking over Laura which morphs into Tara - I think this is significant/deliberately misleading since it implies those two will be the final 2 whereas I think it will be Laura & Elise especially now that we have IMO ID'd Elise on the beach in Thailand.

I also think it's significant that we hardly heard any of Elise's voice in the season premiere - IMO they don't want viewers to be familiar enough with her voice to think she is even an option to make it to the end.  They are going all in with the slow burn storyline IMO.  

I'm going to watch the red carpet clips to familiarise myself more with their voices and may change some of these guesses later because right now it all has me a bit

@Bobette Excellent voice recognition sleuthing

Elise has a distinctive nasally voice and I agree in listening again the "I am in love with you' doesn't sound like her and may be as you said, a complete red herring. Or it could be Tara?
I think the voice 'This is worth fighting for' is Laura.
For me it is difficult to distinguish Florence and Elora, their accents are not dissimilar.
I had thought the 'He's really sweet . . ." might be Lisa. Her voice has to be in there somewhere??
I listen over and over and change each time from Elise to Laura - who is saying 'What makes you happy.'

Storybook wrote:
@Bobette Excellent voice recognition sleuthing

Elise has a distinctive nasally voice and I agree in listening again the "I am in love with you'  doesn't sound like her and may be as you said, a complete red herring. Or it could be Tara?
I think the voice 'This is worth fighting for' is Laura.
For me it is difficult to distinguish Florence and Elora, their accents are not dissimilar.
I had thought the 'He's really sweet . . ." might be Lisa. Her voice has to be in there somewhere??
I listen over and over and change each time from Elise to Laura - who is saying 'What makes you happy.'

TY @Storybook.  I used to do voice to text transcription for work so this is right up my alley.  Not saying I got them all right though!  Need to get more familiar with the girls voices so I've got the TenPlay extras on autoplay and am fine tuning who's who.  

If you're in AUS and can access TenPlay, have a listen to Elora's red carpet arrival clip - I think that's Elise's voice saying "Oh my god there's a fire thrower".  Would you agree?  She is then pictured saying "Oh my god is that one of us? No." Same voice IMO

Is there a polo themed date at all? And who do we think the skydiving date is? Florence?

@Sundy we didn't see any polo dates in the BTS pics, just a hockey date in a park for Elise.
IMO...it was Florence on the skydiving date, someone else had matched a tattoo to her upthread as well.

@Bobette You are definitely the expert in this area of sleuthing.

I listened again to Elora's entrance and yes I agree it is Elise's voice. Sometimes she has a slight lispy voice, sometimes it is a bit nasally. It is a nice voice IMO. She also has a nice laugh, and I think we hear her laughing in the voice overs?

Storybook wrote:@Bobette  You are definitely the expert in this area of sleuthing.  

I listened again to Elora's entrance and yes I agree it is Elise's voice. Sometimes she has a slight lispy voice, sometimes it is a bit nasally. It is a nice voice IMO. She also has a nice laugh, and I think we hear her laughing in the voice overs?

Both Laura and Elise have beautiful, deep voices and are quite similar IMO but there are some differences.  This will sound weird but having listened to them on loop, to me Elise's voice is like a clarinet and Laura's a wealthy lady at an art gallery opening.  

I just re-listened to the preview.  IMO it's not Elise who says "I have trouble opening up to someone".  Not sure who but I'm 90% sure it's not her.  Maybe Lisa?  I think a couple of lines could be Lisa now actually - will have to revise my earlier post.  I definitely do think it's Elise saying "what makes you happy?" (Matty, without hesitation: "you make me happy") and I definitely think it's Laura saying "there's a very good chance I'm going to be very hurt in this".  

I also think it's Elise we hear laughing because she laughs in her meeting with him and it sounds similar.  In fact all of her voice lines sound happy, IMO.  I still think it sounds like Laura saying "I am falling in love with you" but confused why they would put that line over footage of her and Matty together because that seems to obvious - unless it IS too obvious and Elise is F1, not Laura.

Sundy wrote:Is there a polo themed date at all? And who do we think the skydiving date is?  Florence?

Yes to Florence on the skydiving date and re: Polo, there was a medieval themed date with knights on horses so could involve a polo match of sorts - have you found something related to horses?

mercieme wrote:@Sundy we didn't see any polo dates in the BTS pics, just a hockey date in a park for Elise.
IMO...it was Florence on the skydiving date, someone else had matched a tattoo to her upthread as well.

Thanks @mercieme. I only wondered about polo because of the pillow below. Perhaps it was just a coincidence. I did also wonder about Florence Bungy jumping and sky diving. Surely they are not the same date? My mind went immediately to a HTD as she is dressed inappropriately for such a outdoorsy type of date. I think she also has a pottery date too (though I keep confusing the girls). She has a lot of SCs and I am wondering if she is F4 or F5