Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #6

Dessler wrote:It's interesting for me to see how our fondness of people skew our reactions to their actions. Last season, Raven(f2) tried to promote the store she owned low-key with her exposure but she was pounced on for wrong reasons because she was promoting before the finale so much so that she removed the link from her bio for a while. Peter is outright doing the same and everyone is like go Peter, he is so ambitious.

Anyways my sentiments on using this show remains the same, I am not naive to think that this people came on to just find love but it's harder for me as a viewer to buy whatever they are selling to the lead when I see "wrong reasons" while the show is airing. After the show, they can go crazy. JMO

She had Bachelor shirts and team Raven. I thought it was really cheesy and not smart business wise since she wasn't even the F1. Peter seems to be distancing himself from the show from what he's doing, IMO. JMO

Interesting, interesting interesting.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JMHO. I have not seen a rose or the bachelorette on his business or personal IG but I dont know him so I am speculating just like everyone else. JMHO

Dessler wrote:Anyways my sentiments on using this show remains the same, I am not naive to think that this people came on to just find love but it's harder for me as a viewer to buy whatever they are selling to the lead when I see "wrong reasons" while the show is airing. After the show, they can go crazy. JMO

I get it but for me, the only wrong reasons that count are when it's happening while the contestants are actually filming the show not months later when it's time to get back to their real lives and take control of that.   If Peter went on the show for Rachel, for a genuine shot at love and gave it his all while on the show, what he's doing now isn't a sign to me that he was there for the wrong reasons.  JMO.

I try to be mostly consistent with my opinions whether I like someone or not, and if I give someone a pass for doing something I criticized someone else for, I'll fully admit it's because of my bias. I never criticized Raven for the store thing, and IMO not everyone's been all 'go Peter'.

@Dessler i hear ya girl. I have always believed that all these guys come on the show for not just love. My post was more about that we have another opinion out there of Peter vs the opinion of "he came only for his brand". Like i said, the truth always comes out. Right  now I think Peter is a solid guy and based that not just what Whaboom said but the perception of Iggy, Will, Alex and others that have been posted here today

Dessler wrote:It's interesting for me to see how our fondness of people skew our reactions to their actions. Last season, Raven(f2) tried to promote the store she owned low-key with her exposure but she was pounced on for wrong reasons because she was promoting before the finale so much so that she removed the link from her bio for a while. Peter is outright doing the same and everyone is like go Peter, he is so ambitious.

Anyways my sentiments on using this show remains the same, I am not naive to think that this people came on to just find love but it's harder for me as a viewer to buy whatever they are selling to the lead when I see "wrong reasons" while the show is airing. After the show, they can go crazy. JMO

I agree with you and it's not always fair but I do think there's a savvy way to do self-promotion and there's an unsavvy way... IMO instagram, social media and other kind of marketing isn't very savvy...whereas adding value to ppl by actually doing something consistently and inviting ppl to be a part of it is very savvy... for instance if Raven did a trunk show that'd be different...than just posting on social media. IMO it's smarter to acquire/retain customers by letting them experience what you have to offer rather than bombarding them with messages and pictures - the latter comes across as thirsty while the former allows you to build credibility for what you offer. we all are being bombarded with marketing messages so we're all weary of self-promoters...but when someone offers us something then we like that

all jmo

@emusha I think you are kinda proving my point by making excuses for Peter IMO. Raven sell clothes, Peter is fitness person obviously their marketing strategy is different. Everyone use pictures(models,friends e.t.c) and descriptions to market clothes, while trainers offer an experience. Completely different strategy but both still utilising the exposure from the show. It's the same to me.

That's assuming 'everyone' who criticized Raven are all 'go Peter!' though. It's not that simple IMO. I actually get the feeling that a lot of people who weren't fans of Raven/the squad are also not fans of Peter... but I could be wrong. 

FWIW I didn't criticize Raven and quite like her. I didn't even criticize Whaboom and I can't stand him .

@Dessler ITA.  IMO castmembers get blasted if we don't like them and excused and promoted if we do like them......all for the same or very similar actions. Semantics IMO.
JMO

bleuberry wrote:That's assuming 'everyone' who criticized Raven are all 'go Peter!' though. It's not that simple IMO. I actually get the feeling that a lot of people who weren't fans of Raven/the squad are also not fans of Peter... but I could be wrong. 

FWIW I didn't criticize Raven and quite like her.

And some of us didn't even watch and have no idea what we're talking about

For me, if a constant goes on the show seemingly linking the lead from watching them on their original season i give them a pass.

I have not seen that Peter is into Rachel for Rachel or she could be anyone.
If that makes any sense.

Obviously he could have ended up falling hard for her eventually but at this time of filming I don't see anything more than what he would show anyone as a lead. JMO.

@nd4reality I see Peter as someone who is cautious because of past mistakes, that lead him into therapy, and I do see him into Rachel, but then again it is just my view point.  AJMHO