Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #8

SFoster wrote:I don't think anything is "definite". JMO

Just after the RC his SM, private to public, changed his bio and started accepting follows and following people..

SFoster wrote:Call me crazy, but I have not even ruled out Dean as F1.  When I compare his date pics with the others, I see a couple in love. She seems passionately connected to him in a way I don't see with Bryan or Peter.  The 1-1 in SC, for instance. Looking at the pics from Bryan's and Peter's htd?  I don't see much there to say that is a couple about to be engaged. And it's funny how there are no pics of Dean's htd, and there's only that distant fuzzy pic with Eric.  RS said casually that Dean was cast for BiP, but that's a first since we don't officially know the final 4.  Why did he spoil that so early?  Another foiler?  And many times the order of elimination is the order of filming HTD's and USUALLY the final htd filmed is the F1. That is Eric. That may not the order aired.  We would have Bryan at F4 (which I can totally see), Peter F3 (next Bachelor, fan pleaser), Dean F2 (Raven F2 is in BiP filming and she said she loves Dean best), and Eric F1.  Basically, there is no spoiler this season, and I LOVE it!  So much fun!

Sleuthing done in real time while they were filming has Dean out at F4 and Eric gone at F3.

The final 2 are Bryan and Peter. What remains to be confirmed is F1. But IMO, we will figure that out before the FRC.

JMO

Carine wrote:@Alanna are they all Bach people? I never know what to think with the follows but could just be the whole Bach family thing maybe..?

@SFoster Dean was definitely out at F4.

No they're not, but I couldn't see the full list and kinda gave up and returned to my main stalking mission that night

This is why I love the international shows, almost zero spoilers! I mean I think the Canada one finished filming and no one even knew who the Lead was until today

So we have videos of Bryan looking really sad/upset and pictures/videos of Peter looking really happy and relaxed

But can't the producers just hand the contestant their phone, sit with them while they reactivate, have them do actiivty, to throw people off who they know are going by that? They are trying hard this season. I know in the past, contestant(s) have had access to their phone during filming. If they are trying to foil the season, couldn't they do this? It just seems like common sense to me. JMO

coolangel wrote:

pvpr wrote:Damn, I had only seen the IG story where Bryan was on his phone, not the other ones. He looks really sad. I suppose it could be because Rachel's great grandmother had just passed away and he's sad for her/wishes he could be with her, but yeah... definitely makes me  Every time I think I've settled on believing a spoiler, something surfaces that puts me back at square one

Him looking miserable that night after Rachel's great grandmother passed away had actually convinced me that he is F1 IMO.

Shoutout to @Hotmomma for pointing out the difference in Peter and Bryan's SM behavior that night to me. Peter was happily having fun IMO with his friends building the bouncy castle. Bryan was stuck on his phone throughout the night looking progressively miserable IMO as the night wore on. Only one's behavior was consistent to that of a concerned fiance who might be consoling his girl IMO.

All JMO

Could you please post these two vids in a stickied thread for sleuthing purposes ? I (and probably others) have not seen these vids and there may be sleuthing clues here. TIA.

IMO, all 3 look happy and relaxed. None of the final 3 seem heartbroken. That's just my opinion.

SFoster wrote:But can't the producers just hand the contestant their phone, sit with them while they reactivate, have them do actiivty, to throw people off who they know are going by that?  They are trying hard this season. I know in the past, contestant(s) have had access to their phone during filming. If they are trying to foil the season, couldn't they do this?  It just seems like common sense to me. JMO

TPTB do not care that much! Especially not about F3/4,

They keep F2 until after F1 and lead head home to keep that mistery, they dont care about the rest.

SFoster wrote:But can't the producers just hand the contestant their phone, sit with them while they reactivate, have them do actiivty, to throw people off who they know are going by that?  They are trying hard this season. I know in the past, contestant(s) have had access to their phone during filming. If they are trying to foil the season, couldn't they do this?  It just seems like common sense to me. JMO

Ive never heard of contestants who have been allowed to use social media during filming except for Nick and Becca who were both returning contestants who were already famous. Not the new contestants who all go on private. Did producers sit by Eric's side and force him to like all those pics of girls with their asses hanging out too ?  sometimes things are just as simple as they look. Occams razor and all that

SFoster wrote:But can't the producers just hand the contestant their phone, sit with them while they reactivate, have them do actiivty, to throw people off who they know are going by that?  They are trying hard this season. I know in the past, contestant(s) have had access to their phone during filming. If they are trying to foil the season, couldn't they do this?  It just seems like common sense to me. JMO

As it has been brought forward several times in the last few days in Eric's thread, first his book link disappeared and then reappeared.  And then his SM went from private to public and his numbers started jumping drastically.  Some, notably Nick and Becca (both returnees) have tweeted or posted something but did not switch back and forth and have drastic number jumps unless they were let go.

And IMO, TPTB are working no harder this season than any other to hide anything.  IMO, the problem is that so many accepted the first spoiler from RS as fact and quit, didn't want to or bother to continue sluething.  Many here have been both on the board and behind the scenes regardless of the spoilers.  And it has nothing to do with who the actual F1 is it's because that's what we do here.  

Watch the feet and keep sleuthing everything.  Eventually something will be found to confirm things one way or the other.  SCs don't lie and IMO the final nail in the coffin will be the FRC pics released from ABC and the final preview.

JMO

I see signs that could go either way for Bryan or Peter being F1. There's no possibility that Dean or Eric are the F1. Sorry Dean/Eric fans. I could see why people would think it could possibly be them given Rachel keeps saying that the F1 is unpredictable and a slow burn. But she obviously has to say this so people will tune in and actually watch the entire season. Lol I'm team Peter all the way and want him to win, but I'm trying to be unbiased when sleuthing.

People are saying Bryan looked sad when hanging with them, but I saw it as him more so looking uncomfortable. He could be this way as F1 or not. Let me play devil's advocate and he could just look that way, because he knows he has to be extremely tight lipped and doesn't want anything to slip while they're recording. People also said at one point Bryan put his head down very quickly when the other guys toasted to Rachel. This could be because he's heartbroken like many others have mentioned, but it could also be because he doesn't want people to speculate and say he's F1, because he's toasting to Rachel. If the mission of both spoilers was to get people talking and actually tune in, the producers succeeded. I've never watched an entire season all the way through since I started watching, but I will now. Lol So well done producers