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Re: Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall & Vanessa Grimaldi - FAN Forum - Discussion #23
Ahhh, no I didn't know that. Thanks GA. That makes it even more interesting & out of place. Seems like they had fun doing the People Shoot then Kimmel but then not much fun ( stitched up like a kipper) doing ATFR.GuardianAngel wrote:@ukglasgowkiiss I'm not sure if you're aware so I'll just clarify.Then a few hours late Nick & Vanessa are seen on Kimmel, looking so relaxed, happy, smiling, joking, a totally different light hearted interview.
Although it was a few hours later we saw them on Kimmel, that was actually taped BEFORE the ATFR live show.
@blueblues That's so cute!
Correct me if I'm wrong but was the format of their ATFR mot a completely different one from the usual. Usualky we see the happy couple together and they show them either the proposal or some montage of clips. Usually there is a chance for them to showcase their best moments in some way. Also kept wondering why no bachelor alum in the audience or any bits where CH asks questions of family members or friends in the audience.
CH actually said to V - 'You were a hard sell.' He was joking but not! She very nicely took it as a joke & showed her self knowledge by saying she liked to speak her mind
Yes @Bkay I agree that Nick fell early and did not go the sex drama route they may hv wanted.
I know it doesnt matter now. But like you @George1218 it makes me want to abandon watching future seasons.
@chrissy1295 I love yr signature quotes. My two favorite bach proposals!!
All imo
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There are plenty of vids interviews and SM and Nick himself to prove how much they care for one another. I wouldn't mind them not having anything else to do with BN after DWTS.
Vanessa looks lovely in the SM pic upthread. No wonder we couldn't tell what she was wearing. I love the earrings she has on.
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For my sins I needed to look back at ATFR for the reasons I posted but also to try and explain why the happy ending of Nick & Vanessa was not being widely celebrated in bachelor circles as much as in 'real' circles. On paper the threads all tie up- the lost soldier /3 times loser/ bad boy finds his love. And then she has all the leading lady credentials yet in some ways she has been undermined- imo her confidence has been publicly undermined by tb & tptb. It seems to me like the 'accepted norm' of a leading f1 is usually more malleable and is open to being rejected by the lead. Certainly in past seasons.Vanessa has embodied a new & perhaps challenging (to some) position of someone who truly knows her worth & speaks her mind. Someone who may even reject the lead if need be.
Those very issues are the ones I wish there were more discussions around.
I think that Nick's story and personality is more complex than the norm so would hv welcomed even a token of that discussion during ATFR. It seemed very odd that so little was made of the success of Nick being engaged given his story & zero exploration of his journey to actual love. Msjes me sad that the bachelor 'journey' is valued less on the quest for love than for drama.
But the happiness I see in Nick is worth any tv show angst.
All said & done.
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