Nick Viall & Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - Discussion - #2

It is irrelevant to me whether an argument did or did not place. People argue even with those they love and care the most for. Whatever did/didn't happen Nissa look very happy together from all that has been shared so far.

MonicaJM2001 wrote:It is irrelevant to me whether an argument did or did not place. People argue even with those they love and care the most for. Whatever did/didn't happen Nissa look very happy together from all that has been shared so far.

:yougogirl:   Totally agree ..... just scrolling on by .......

I'm so glad they are headed to the wedding together. After seeing Vanessa's tweet with the Taylor swift song I was. Little concerned that rumors might be true.

whit90 wrote:

MonicaJM2001 wrote:It is irrelevant to me whether an argument did or did not place. People argue even with those they love and care the most for. Whatever did/didn't happen Nissa look very happy together from all that has been shared so far.

:yougogirl:   Totally agree ..... just scrolling on by .......

I have a great relationship even though I have my biotch-mode moments.  (Not saying Nick had a jacka*s moment nor Vanessa a biotch moment, just trying to make a point).  Here's the thing - according to Notarose  - the value of being loved IMO is that all facets of your personality are welcomed by your partner. There is laughter, joy, sharing of secrets & fears & dreams, sexy time, and there is also comfort in knowing that you are safe to be pissy or surly or unreasonable on occasion without fear of losing love. In a way true love is one continual embrace in which you can just be and not fear being let go just because you are not always at your best. Loving partners strive, as a unit, to keep their little raft afloat regardless of the temperament of the sea.
Love their relationship IMO they hide no part of themselves from each other and that is a beautiful thing.

notarose wrote:

whit90 wrote:

MonicaJM2001 wrote:It is irrelevant to me whether an argument did or did not place. People argue even with those they love and care the most for. Whatever did/didn't happen Nissa look very happy together from all that has been shared so far.

:yougogirl:   Totally agree ..... just scrolling on by .......

I have a great relationship even though I have my biotch-mode moments.  (Not saying Nick had a jacka*s moment nor Vanessa a biotch moment, just trying to make a point).  Here's the thing - according to Notarose  - the value of being loved IMO is that all facets of your personality are welcomed by your partner. There is laughter, joy, sharing of secrets & fears & dreams, sexy time, and there is also comfort in knowing that you are safe to be pissy or surly or unreasonable on occasion without fear of losing love. In a way true love is one continual embrace in which you can just be and not fear being let go just because you are not always at your best. Loving partners strive, as a unit, to keep their little raft afloat regardless of the temperament of the sea.
Love their relationship  IMO they hide no part of themselves from each other and that is a beautiful thing.

Exactly! So well put @notarose. Watching Nissa through the show was always so refreshing because there were the obvious intense feelings growing but both willingly discussed the more difficult topics and worked through any disagreements aka what happens in the real world. The "for better or worse" in marriage vows is  there for a reason.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are on shaky ground. I still think she could do better.

IDK the photos of them at the wedding looked fairly steamy.

notarose wrote:*snipped*
 Here's the thing - according to Notarose  - the value of being loved IMO is that all facets of your personality are welcomed by your partner. There is laughter, joy, sharing of secrets & fears & dreams, sexy time, and there is also comfort in knowing that you are safe to be pissy or surly or unreasonable on occasion without fear of losing love. In a way true love is one continual embrace in which you can just be and not fear being let go just because you are not always at your best. Loving partners strive, as a unit, to keep their little raft afloat regardless of the temperament of the sea.
Love their relationship  IMO they hide no part of themselves from each other and that is a beautiful thing.

Excellent post @notarose and so on point, IMO. For two people to be totally real and themselves and not pretend at all and actually encourage each other to be authentic and real and be so supportive of each other the way Nick and Vanessa have been...to me is the very definition of a healthy relationship.

JMO

Kashathediva wrote:IDK the photos of them at the wedding looked fairly steamy.

Nissa looked very happy and playful in the traveling to/wedding SM IMO. Still shaking my head at the IG comments scolding Vanessa for wearing white to the wedding when the dress was beige!

I thought it was a light sage green. LOL People can be petty.

I always say everyone should ignore SM trolls, but sometimes I have the best response in my head.

I swear some people live on ig to scold other people. Their only reason for following anyone. It must be tiring on that high horse, reaching and reaching for any reason to trash someone.

Nick and Vanessa looked gorgeous at the wedding, and it looked like an excellent celebration. The cookies...