Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Vanessa LCD was first..Raven was last.. which is odd also...it's usually he f2 LCD first!emusha wrote:Hotmomma wrote:Ladybug82 wrote:Photos are up of their dates, and Santa, but none of the FRC.
If non spoiled viewers saw these..They would thin Nick is pulling away from Vanessa and is really into Raven! JMO
Agreed - simply based on these pics he seems 'down' and stressed in the photos with Vanessa and he seems elated and joyful in his photos with Raven
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
We don't know the actual order they were filmed. We just know the order in the press release and what the photos have. Last season with Robby and Jordan pretty sure they made the FRC numbers all the same, but someone CMIIW, so not sure we can really go by the numbers as much as we have in the past.
It could be as a simple as after the MTP were they were concerned so about Vanessa being too similar to Andi and Kaitlyn, he needed to spend time with her to calm down or reassure himself of his decision.
JMO
ETA: not to mention, the longer they're apart, the more TPTB can screw with them both and make them doubt their confidence and feelings. Nick's will Vanessa say yes. Vanessa, will he choose me? Is what we have more special, etc. ?
It could be as a simple as after the MTP were they were concerned so about Vanessa being too similar to Andi and Kaitlyn, he needed to spend time with her to calm down or reassure himself of his decision.
JMO
ETA: not to mention, the longer they're apart, the more TPTB can screw with them both and make them doubt their confidence and feelings. Nick's will Vanessa say yes. Vanessa, will he choose me? Is what we have more special, etc. ?
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Kashathediva wrote:sdmom wrote:In the past, do most f1 have horse back riding for an activity?
Andy Baldwin and Tessa Horst?
Deanna and Jesse?
Those are the two came to my mind.
What about Sean and Catherine? Did they ride elephants ? Does that count?
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
sdmom wrote:Kashathediva wrote:sdmom wrote:In the past, do most f1 have horse back riding for an activity?
Andy Baldwin and Tessa Horst?
Deanna and Jesse?
Those are the two came to my mind.
What about Sean and Catherine? Did they ride elephants ? Does that count?
No horse for them but they went on an elephant ride for their LCD and then after the proposal.
I can't remember any other horse back riding that wasn't on a group date.
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Didn't Des and her f2 (Drew?) ride horses on a beach? I'm just going on memory. I thought brad 2.0 and Emily rode elephants too?
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Technically Raven still had the MTP first. She met Nick's folks in week 4.
IMO This was one of the reasons why Nick got Raven to F2. He didn't want to put his family through another round of 'Meet the prospective daughter-in-law'. His parents and Bella had already met Raven so technically they were only meeting his F1 Vanessa for the first time on the MTP.
All JMO
IMO This was one of the reasons why Nick got Raven to F2. He didn't want to put his family through another round of 'Meet the prospective daughter-in-law'. His parents and Bella had already met Raven so technically they were only meeting his F1 Vanessa for the first time on the MTP.
All JMO
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
yes and she let him go on the beach.sparkler wrote:Didn't Des and her f2 (Drew?) ride horses on a beach? I'm just going on memory. I thought brad 2.0 and Emily rode elephants too?
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
I keep hearing about some historic thing happening ....maybe he does propose to Vanessa and she actually does say no, or not right now...maybe she says Id like to date awhile in the real world and then decide. They did include in the edit her saying an engagement was like being married to her and she only wanted to do it once...so maybe theyll actually get engaged at thr ATFR and not the FRC. That hasnt happened as far as I know of.
The (FRC) Proposal..."Will you marry me because I'd really like to date you"
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
^ That has not happened yet, the woman telling the male lead to hold his horses. I guess that could be historic and then with a live proposal at ATFR.
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
If UsWeekly is to be believed, the F1 accepted the proposal.
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/why-bachelor-nick-viall-tells-the-runner-up-hes-selfish-w470822
Us can confirm that Viall popped the question to either poised special-needs teacher Vanessa Grimaldi or buoyant boutique owner Raven Gates — and the woman eagerly accepted the $93,000, 4-carat diamond he offered. (So as not to spoil the outcome of the March 13 finale, Us is not naming the winner.)
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/why-bachelor-nick-viall-tells-the-runner-up-hes-selfish-w470822
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Why does the SC of nick's ring in the promo looks like the ring Chris S picked as well ? I remember someone posted a SC of the ring and added a picture of a Neil Lane ring that looks similar..
When I was looking at the post of previous bachelor/ette rings, the ring Chris S picked looked like the same one.
Can someone find that post with SC of the ring Nick is holding
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-style/pictures/bachelor-and-bachelorette-engagement-rings-through-the-years-w201894
My SC from this link.
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
I don't think it's the same at all. This is from the new promo @coolangel just posted in the media thread. That's the best I can do, since it's real quick. SC enlarged.
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4050p360-bachelor-21-nick-viall-media-sm-vids-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-5
http://www.eonline.com/au/news/834735/new-bachelor-finale-promo-promises-a-bachelor-first-on-after-the-final-rose
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4050p360-bachelor-21-nick-viall-media-sm-vids-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-5
http://www.eonline.com/au/news/834735/new-bachelor-finale-promo-promises-a-bachelor-first-on-after-the-final-rose
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