Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - Discussion - #2

^^[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], I completely get what you are saying. The edit has done nothing to lead viewers to see Raven as a viable option, but instead has totally focused on making Vanessa seem too 'difficult' so poor Nick will end up alone..again.

Raven doesn't exude emotion. It's why I have such a hard time connecting with her. Everything she says or does is so juvenile. If I were Nick's parents, I would sense immediately that she's far too young for Nick in every possible way. They are just not compatible. I don't care how the show splices and edits their connection. It's the most non believeable F2 ever, IMO.

^^^exactly! Imo you have to be a super fan of Nick + Vanessa to feel invested and engaged in ending. Or you have to be rooting for Raven to be a foiler and the real f1. Meh.

 Which is why I am happy to catch up on baby pictures.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], I agree with you, and as someone else pointed out, Nick deserves kudos for protecting his F1 and the other women. I think he knew who he wanted and didn't string along others who might have seemed more compatible than Raven, or been more invested in him.

Cila51290 wrote:Raven doesn't exude emotion. It's why I have such a hard time connecting with her. Everything she says or does is so juvenile. If I were Nick's parents, I would sense immediately that she's far too young for Nick in every possible way. They are just not compatible. I don't care how the show splices and edits their connection. It's the most non believeable F2 ever, IMO.

Raven is hard to connect with. So that is why I am so shocked he is F2. I don't think she is that Juvenile it could make her seem more younger because of her accent. That accent (imo) and I do not mean to offend anyone. That accent doesn't do justice for anyone. It just makes you appear not so bright.

So couple that with her accent and youth it may appear for her to be more juvenile than she actually is.

I try to put what Raven says (in my head with a british accent and if I don't cringe then she is okay) Right now I cringe at what she says.

Has anyone notice if Raven is in CA, or on the move?

atem wrote:This deleted scene with Raven is hilarious!

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Moving from another thread.

Hotmomma wrote:Has anyone notice if Raven is in CA, or on the move?

She just posted something on IG story so I guess she's still home?

sdmom wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:Has anyone notice if Raven is in CA, or on the move?

She just posted something on IG story so I guess she's still home?

You can post old vid on IG story.

I'll just leave this here, because the accent convo has been had several times already.  And I've probably already made my feelings clear.  

Honey, just because I talk slow doesn't mean I'm stupid. --- Jake Perry, Sweet Home Alabama

ETA:  Source: the movie itself, but here's a Link to some of the more known quotes from the movie

Cila51290 wrote:Raven doesn't exude emotion. It's why I have such a hard time connecting with her. Everything she says or does is so juvenile. If I were Nick's parents, I would sense immediately that she's far too young for Nick in every possible way. They are just not compatible. I don't care how the show splices and edits their connection. It's the most non believeable F2 ever, IMO.

Agreed. The mere idea of Nick marrying Raven is equivalent to Nick marrying his little sister to me, and that's something I'd rather not think about. It's not even her age really, she just seems sort of naïve and like there's still a lot more she needs to experience before getting engaged. I actually think Nick was more interested in her earlier on, but the more time they spend together the more her age shows and the less of an option she becomes. JMO. I mean I'm sure there are those who think Nick's a horndog just dying to fool around with girls in their early 20's, but I've never seen it. I think he enjoys Raven's company because it's light-hearted and drama-free, but she's MOT if I've ever seen one. JMO.

I think date wise, Raven got the short end of it. Skating skating and more skating. Look at Vanessa, zero gravity, ice plunge and visiting Santa's workshop, more unique Finland experiences. I hope Raven's business increases because of her exposure.
Jmo