Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5

Nick's mom liked the IG pic of Nick and Vanessa that Nick posted

Yah i don't like ashley I, of course she agrees with nick comment about america.
Whats nick going to say, he doesn't like america and then everyone hates him.
No he had to say i love being an american or people would judge. IMO

we will see how that conversation goes..

AllAboutLove wrote:
Nick's mom liked the IG pic of Nick and Vanessa that Nick posted

Interesting! Has she liked any other pictures?

Just wondering on Monday, 06 March, will they show Nick proposing to his F1 or will it show the week after?

AllAboutLove wrote:
Nick's mom liked the IG pic of Nick and Vanessa that Nick posted

Love this

Getting the feeling that the real people involved are getting as p*ssed off with the edit as some of us are

Also, noticed that Nick followed Jared right after Justin Trudeau.  Hmm, Nick began following Jared during the airing of Kaitlyn's season. Wonder if that vid of Jared with Nick having lunch wasn't a heavy sitdown because of what Jared has been saying during all those paid interviews recently.  Nothing terrible but maybe Nick is fed up with some Bach nation peeps he considered friends being too cavalier with their opinions or worse yet towing tptb storyline.  If I'm right than the lunch must have gone well and thus the refollow. Perhaps this show really does brings out true colors in surprising ways.

I think there are close inner circle friends and then Bach Nation "friends". From what I've seen, Vanessa seems to have made friends with Dani M. Whether that friendship stands the test of time remains to be seen. If not, it doesn't really matter IMO. With Nick, I've only ever seen him have lasting friendships with Sharleen and her fiance Andy from this franchise that go beyond just Bach Nation stuff and actually spending time in each other's real worlds. I'd add Ali to that mix but not on the same level as with S&A. Again, I think that speaks to itself and just life and how most real friendships that stand the test of time are the ones that aren't circumstantial (I liken the Bach franchise to college and those type of friendships made from circumstance more than connection). That Vanessa's and Nick's closest friends - the ones they spend the most time with - are not from Bach Nation says a lot about who they are IMO.

AllAboutLove wrote:I think there are close inner circle friends and then Bach Nation "friends". From what I've seen, Vanessa seems to have made friends with Dani M. Whether that friendship stands the test of time remains to be seen. If not, it doesn't really matter IMO. With Nick, I've only ever seen him have lasting friendships with Sharleen and her fiance Andy from this franchise that go beyond just Bach Nation stuff and actually spending time in each other's real worlds. I'd add Ali to that mix but not on the same level as with S&A. Again, I think that speaks to itself and just life and how most real friendships that stand the test of time are the ones that aren't circumstantial (I liken the Bach franchise to college and those type of friendships made from circumstance more than connection). That Vanessa's and Nick's closest friends - the ones they spend the most time with - are not from Bach Nation says a lot about who they are IMO.

Skates wrote:I am not taking it as something offensive when he says he is proud of being an American...Vanessa ultimately has also said she is proud to be a Canadian while smiling...but, one statement caught me the most (snipped)
“Is there anything that you would feel uncomfortable compromising on?” she asks him. “Is moving for you something that you don’t see yourself doing?”
“I’ve moved a lot,” Viall, 36, responds. “I’ve never imagined living in Canada. And I’ll be honest, that’s not easy for me to picture. I hope that’s not a non-negotiable, but I think I would do anything for the woman that I love.”

IA    I can picture myself moving to 5 countries that I really like, I can't picture to move to some others that I imagine would feel uncomfortable (because of the grandeur, different culture, safety ... my fears), but I would move to for love ... but not if moving was non-negotiable. Because I would like to think my partner would hear me out first, my concerns and my hopes and we'd try to find the best solution for both. I like to risk, but not to hazard. I need some "security", I need to know clearly the intentions and faith that it is worth it. So, with that POV, I can imagine Vanessa and Nick approached the matter ... mutual decision is a must.

notarose wrote:She came on this tv dating show to date American Nick and he knowingly continued to give Canadian Vanessa roses. Do their intentions align? (snipped)

love your whole post and IA
@Skates on 13th is the finale with FRC ... and ATFR

AllAboutLove wrote:From what I've seen, Vanessa seems to have made friends with Dani M. Whether that friendship stands the test of time remains to be seen. If not, it doesn't really matter IMO. With Nick, I've only ever seen him have lasting friendships with Sharleen and her fiance Andy from this franchise that go beyond just Bach Nation stuff and actually spending time in each other's real worlds. Again, I think that speaks to itself and just life and how most real friendships that stand the test of time are the ones that aren't circumstantial (I liken the Bach franchise to college and those type of friendships made from circumstance more than connection). (snipped)

 love it!

cmarci93 wrote:

Catdwoman50 wrote:So I guess the major historical announcement is THE FIRST BACHELOR to move to Canada

is this true or opinion?

Not true at all.

Do you guys think Mom and Dad will click with V? Or will it be the usual one likes one more and the other likes F2 instead. Raven already has one leg up since she met them already. I always think the mom knows best sure sometimes she can be wrong but too many times the mom is always right.

Cila51290 wrote:Do you guys think Mom and Dad will click with V? Or will it be the usual one likes one more and the other likes F2 instead.

considering they have already met Raven she may have an edge IMO, but I feel like they'll both like Vanessa. I think editing may make it seem like one of them is unsure of her (when it come to the moving subject) to add confusion to viewers though.

LOl... Just reading this thread this morning>

Do we need to have a Justin Trudeau thread?