Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #7

bleuberry wrote:Nowadays it feels like you don't even need to stay with your person as long as you've built a following. I suppose opportunities may dry up faster if we're talking appearances but shilling is still how most of these people are getting by IMO. And you really only need numbers for that. JMO.

Right. I won't get in specifics, but if others get credited for sticking with their lead through thick and thin when they could easily walk and still have countless opportunities, L should get the benefit of doubt too. I think there is more holding her to Ben than F1 opportunities, for sure.

sosleepy wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Nowadays it feels like you don't even need to stay with your person as long as you've built a following. I suppose opportunities may dry up faster if we're talking appearances but shilling is still how most of these people are getting by IMO. And you really only need numbers for that. JMO.

Right. I won't get in specifics, but if others get credited for sticking with their lead through thick and thin when they could easily walk and still have countless opportunities, L should get the benefit of doubt too. I think there is more holding her to Ben than F1 opportunities, for sure.

IA, that "other thing" being embarrassment at failing after the "we're getting married on this stage right freaking now" nonsense IMO.

hae1001 wrote:Amanda is in vegas right now and just got back from Maui. Jen just left NY, has been to Denver, Nashville, Texas, and New York multiple times just in 2017. She is also about to be going to Greece, per her live Instagram chats. Caila is in New Orleans right now and has been traveling quite frequently as well. I absolutely believe that Lauren would have the travel opportunities with or without Ben. She didn't need him to have them, as evidenced by many of Ben's other contestants.

Apparently Amanda makes 20K a month. Single. Lauren doesn't shill nearly as much as Amanda, and I'm sure could bank just as much as her without Ben.

IA I don't see what benefit it would be by keeping Ben if she's not in love and wants to sincerely try to make the relationship work?? I don't think he has anything to do with any income she is generating.

I see no advantage to stay in that relationship if for the sole purpose of income from shilling. IMO Lauren can do just fine on her own.

@sosleepy exactly. imo she would probably have even more opportunities if she wasn't with Ben and was back in LA. She wouldn't have the responsibility of a relationship and would be free to do as she pleases and could attend all the LA events she wanted imo. For me personally that gives credibility that she does love Ben and that their relationship is real. I don't think they would invest over a year of their lives and that their friends would constantly be defending them if it was all for saving face.

Alanna wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Nowadays it feels like you don't even need to stay with your person as long as you've built a following. I suppose opportunities may dry up faster if we're talking appearances but shilling is still how most of these people are getting by IMO. And you really only need numbers for that. JMO.

Right. I won't get in specifics, but if others get credited for sticking with their lead through thick and thin when they could easily walk and still have countless opportunities, L should get the benefit of doubt too. I think there is more holding her to Ben than F1 opportunities, for sure.

IA, that "other thing" being embarrassment at failing after the "we're getting married on this stage right freaking now" nonsense IMO.

Agree. Lots of these couples maybe hang on longer due to embarrassment (Andi said as much in her book), and all of them most certainly feel pressure to stay together. But this embarrassment only carries you so far before you reach the straw that breaks the camel's back. Ben cancelled that wedding almost 6 months ago in real time. She's still there. He's still there. Surely more is holding them together than the potential embarrassment of it falling apart, which is a temporarily feeling.

And to be fair, the "we are getting married on this stage right freaking now" came from the producers ... not B&L themselves. And yes, I realize Ben made the dumb "I would marry this girl tomorrow" remark. Don't a lot of them, though.

I'm still in wait and see mode. I don't know that they've really been doing anything different since last months debacle though, as Lauren hasn't really be snapping her life away (for me to make a concrete opinion/statement) and Ben has been in Kansas for at least the past 5 days. And when they were both together before he left, Megan and Ceyla stayed with them at their house. It's at least a good sign that Lauren is voluntarily staying at the house right now We'll see! I expect things to get better IMO.

She's finally channeling all her sass frass into exercise

https://instagram.com/p/BRJ1ciejJoM/

Ben forreal betta watch out! Jk.

Maybe one day when she acts less cray I'll start warming to her.
Still can't help but want to yell at her that she should stop faking to be all sweet sweet.

All just my very biased opinion about Lauren Bushnell.

I cannot stand Lauren - I stopped following her on IG and Snap because she is just so vapid. Then I started following again with all the breakup rumors. And here we are again. The woman is incredibly vain ***IMO***. I don't know if I can hold out for the eventual split.

Sheokaf wrote:I cannot stand Lauren - I stopped following her on IG and Snap because she is just so vapid. Then I started following again with all the breakup rumors. And here we are again. The woman is incredibly vain ***IMO***. I don't know if I can hold out for the eventual split.

Just  I can't stomach following her either, but I follow along on here. Try to hold on , it's not much longer IMO.

Sheokaf wrote:I cannot stand Lauren - I stopped following her on IG and Snap because she is just so vapid. Then I started following again with all the breakup rumors. And here we are again. The woman is incredibly vain ***IMO***. I don't know if I can hold out for the eventual split.

I just checked the Urban Dictionary about "Vain", I totally like that word, it sums up my opinion about this woman.

Vain - Excessively proud of their appearance; conceited, arrogant, narcissistic.

TBH, I wasn't too invested in Ben's season because I never thought he was a good candidate. I mainly watched his interaction with his final three, and from the little I saw, I didn't get it back then, still don't get it now why he picked Lauren (not that I think JoJo is a better option, she is not), except maybe he was charmed by her "look" the first night.

IMO, Lauren is such a high maintenance shallow princess, it was obvious all season long. I don't get how Ben not been able to see it, she is just not the girl who would stay home taking care of the house works while he is busy at work.