Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 9 Feb 27 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

^^ Props to Nick for a more personalized caption with Raven this time. 

Atleast it's not 'We are in Finland. #Finland' 


ETA: 

His captions for his pics with Raven so far:

HTD pic:     When In Rome #hometowns#thebachelor #hoxie
GD pic:       We're going to Hoxie!! #thebachelor
1-1 pic:      Truthfully, we spent most of our date just eating the orange slices #thebachelor

ravennicolegates
Who knew my icey heart could melt so easily ❄️ #thebachelor

nutty1 wrote:I agree with all of you. There was zero chemistry there. I pray he didn't sleep with her. She was talking like it was a given.

Sorry if TMI but from the way Nick was so disinterested in Raven, I think the only thing she would be given is something that vibrates and is plastic while Nick says "enjoy yourself" and promptly sees himself out the door.

cgriep
Shooting in northern Finland (Lapland) for "The Bachelor". Last November. It was 2 weeks of saunas, northern lights and very, very short days. I think the sun rose after 10:30am and set right around 2:30pm. . . .
#thebachelor #lapland #laplandfinland #finland

Just piping in...zero chemistry and so awkward. Even that first hug when Raven arrived, it didn't lead to a kiss. At the bar playing darts was just like buddies vs. potential lovers.

There is no sign yet of the romantic and passionate and just lovesick puppy I saw with Andi. He treats Raven likes he treats the twins.

And Raven...seriously. I am sorry but she came across like a vengeful 16 year old, gleefully getting back...again!!!...at her ex. Run fellows, run.

Reflecting on tonight's episode, the MeAndi scene was surprisingly tolerable though as some said so unnecessary. I think Nick has apologized to her enough for the ATFR blurt out but whatever. The RC....Nick was smoking hot in the all black suit. The Raven date had some cute moments for me and I am not going to go all blogger boy and pretend I have access to the FS or Nick/woman x having sex (or not) but the more they emphasized the sexual talk and innuendo the more it convinced me that sex didn't happen. Just like the more they force the issue of creating doubt about Vanessa, the way they are forcing the talk about and amplifying having sex is swaying me to believe in the opposite. Between Andi's sex pep talk/advocation and Raven's lack of orgasm, it was really overemphasized as though TPTB are begging viewers to believe/assume sex. Did someone mention a pillow between them in that bed scene, I think i saw it too .

Mgrissom wrote:Who thinks the scene with Andi was filmed later during the editing process when they figured out that it was so obvious that Vanessa and Rachel were the only ones he was in to and they wanted to spoil Rachel early for casting purposes?

They needed that line of "or 30" to continue the thought of would he choose anyone or would anyone say yes.

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure we knew she was there when they were in NY because she posted a picture from the hotel where everyone was staying.

Omg the AndI thing was so so dumb. So pointless. And she looked really skinny and botoxed. Then Raven wth. She acted like a little girl, blah. She really just came across so immature and naive. Umm Nicks still into 2 other girls, and it's like she thought that would impress him. But he's 36 , it was just awkward and weird. Jmo.

MVMom39forever wrote:Just piping in...zero chemistry and so awkward. Even that first hug when Raven arrived, it didn't lead to a kiss. At the bar playing darts was just like buddies vs. potential lovers.

There is no sign yet of the romantic and passionate and just lovesick puppy I saw with Andi. He treats Raven likes he treats the twins.

And Raven...seriously. I am sorry but she came across like a vengeful 16 year old, gleefully getting back...again!!!...at her ex. Run fellows, run.

Per the bolded::: I thought the same exact thing .Like got ya. How do you like those apples?

Does anybody remember when Raven said Jasime is gonna shank a bitch? The reason I ask is I heard her say that during the WTA preview. I know they do this to throw us off but what if ??????

Mgrissom wrote:Who thinks the scene with Andi was filmed later during the editing process when they figured out that it was so obvious that Vanessa and Rachel were the only ones he was in to and they wanted to spoil Rachel early for casting purposes?

They needed that line of "or 30" to continue the thought of would he choose anyone or would anyone say yes.

I think Andi's segment was more for a "come full circle" purpose. Giving Nick an opportunity to "apologize" (on tape), to state how "he can see now how difficult it was to her", giving Andi a chance to mend her image to show herself as a "liberal" strong woman, but also to lead the conversation towards the big 3-letter word, which most secretly or not are most curious about ... because it's Nick (enough said). Also to imply, to make believe ... or to "create the environment" for "things to happen". It's on Nick what he does from then on.
I think if TPTB had "juicier" story to tell, we wouldn't have had this season's edit ... so IMO, he didn't bring "the Nick sex factor" into his own season and left them "dry".

Yes, I saw that and you know what if I had the body and looks that she has, I would do so as well.

100% agree. Plus that was a freaking gorgeous gown that was being wasted because they stuck the women out in the freezing cold, so they had to have huge coats over their outfits. Vanessa was basically like, "nope, my dress will be seen..." and good for her.