Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 9 Feb 27 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Did someone say Vanessa's date was filmed first?
If so, I think that explains a lot about this date. Nick was game to have fun, but to me it was obvious that it was a Big Brother, little sister relationship. The ILY speech was hard to watch.

GuardianAngel wrote:She's looking at him with longing eyes.

I totally believe that Andi still wants Nick and that he's the one that got away and always will be

Sprite wrote:OMG...Poor Nick. He looked so embarrassed when she said she never had an orgasm. Could he have turned any more red.

Such good ideals to put in young girls heads. Get a boyfriend sleep with him for two years while never telling him you love him since I guess you're holding out for the big O that he hasn't given you, then assault him when you catch him cheating after all of this don't work go on National TV and put in down in history. Fall in love ( because it's expected) tell the guy you've never had the big O at a romantic dinner Because what better time to tell him. Setting this up for her sleeping with Nick and having the fireworks she has been expecting only to be sent home a couple weeks later. Yep young girls do you have all that? If not, maybe you need to write it down.

This season has been a total joke IMO. I'm not blaming Nick because believe it or not I've grown to like him as the season has gone on. ( still can't stand the way he talks, but I guess he can't help that) If he's dancing with Peta I'm looking forward to that, but only with Peta. He has a good chance at winning with her.

That entire date was awkward.

reason wrote:Is that a pillow between them?  No extra activity in that FS.

There was more chemistry between Nick and Andi and their closure talk than Raven and Nick on their FD, IMO.
I've seen zilch, nada, nothing between Nick and Raven and their FD didn't change that.
Nick is not interested in her physically AT all, IMO.
I've seen Nick interested over the past few years and he's definitely not with Raven, IMO.

AllAboutLove wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:She's looking at him with longing eyes.

I totally believe that Andi still wants Nick and that he's the one that got away and always will be

I don't know if he was before, but after seeing him as the Bachelor with all these great women competing for him, I wouldn't be surprised if Andi had some what if's.

Catdwoman50 wrote:

Maya wrote:Way different reaction from Nick than when Vanessa said ily

Curious, what do you mean?

I felt like he was just waiting for her to finally say it and get it over while with Vanessa he was sinking in every word she was saying.
With Raven there was no forehead lean and kiss no kissing on the hand, no big speech explaining his emotions nothing.
It was similar to when Corrine said ily last week. AIMO

This is supposed to be "fantasy dates" and yet Nick couldn't lean further away from Raven if he tried (without falling over).
Nick is not into Raven. Not in the slightest! IMO


ETA: Looking at the pic again it actually is hilarious to me because Raven is all like "Come here" and Nick is like "Um, no" (closed lips, leaning backwards)  



Just a couple of kids trying not to freeze to death #thebachelor by @nickviall

Andi's "hellllooooo Nick" reminded me of Jerry Seinfeld Helloooo Newman

shaughnessyb wrote:So Nick posts a pic of him and Raven almost kissing and Raven posts the same one, but of them actually kissing

IMO it's telling that Nick chose the one where they weren't.

Remember in Andi's seadon, Nick got tons of bashing when he posted a pic of them hugging but it looked like they were kissing and non-fans said he's disrespectful of f1? I wonder if Raven will get the same kind of reaction?

Yeah, I don't understand it. It's just a photo of time they shared together. IMO not a big deal.

Nick has ZERO chem with Raven...he looked like he wanted to off himself half way through that date when she went on & on & on & on...I have no idea where some are seeing chemistry with them cause it's not there in the slightest..