Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 9 Feb 27 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

CHO wrote:Sounds like Trista and Ryan .....

Sounds like a moron.
IMO

mprssdbyu wrote:

Maya wrote:RS seems pretty fond of Raven

Of course, he does. He likes her friends who do the story telling for her even more, IMO.

Now that Maddy is gone, who else does he have to give orgasms to(other than himself). So Raven is moving up on his list. JMOAA

Kashathediva wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:

Maya wrote:RS seems pretty fond of Raven

Of course, he does. He likes her friends who do the story telling for her even more, IMO.

Now that Maddy is gone, who else does he have to give orgasms to(other than himself). So Raven is moving up on his list. JMOAA

Again, why do you think Raven's friends/family has anything to do with what RS says or does? He saw the episode and made his own assumptions.

atem wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:
Of course, he does. He likes her friends who do the story telling for her even more, IMO.

Now that Maddy is gone, who else does he have to give orgasms to(other than himself). So Raven is moving up on his list. JMOAA

Again, why do you think Raven's friends/family has anything to do with what RS says or does?  He saw the episode and made his own assumptions.

RS is an azz, but he's not stupid. He's not going to bite the hand that feeds him. Not now, not ever, IMO.

Raven's been with one guy. Is it that much a shock that she didn't have one with him? Not to me.

I'm am still trying to get what scoop RS got. I still haven't heard anything.

Catdwoman50 wrote:^^RS doubts it happened because apparently they played it up so much.  He actually is more afraid for Raven because now every interview will be about it.

atem wrote:

Again, why do you think Raven's friends/family has anything to do with what RS says or does?  He saw the episode and made his own assumptions.

It's comical actually how blantant he is about his protection of Raven.

@atem I have posted a couple of times in response to your question, maybe you missed it. Proof via Twitter of her family/friends feeding him information. It was speculated a long time ago during sleuthing that he would protect her via SM proof. Imagine this little secret coming from Vanessa and the hay day he'd have if that was the case. LiarBoy kisses butt big time and it's so obvious IMHO.

atem wrote:Raven's been with one guy.  Is it that much a shock that she didn't have one with him?  Not to me.

I'm am still trying to get what scoop RS got.  I still haven't heard anything.

You don't need a man to have an orgasm though. Seems like she said that she's never had one, not just that she never had one with him, unless RS heard it wrong.

atem wrote:

Catdwoman50 wrote:^^RS doubts it happened because apparently they played it up so much.  He actually is more afraid for Raven because now every interview will be about it.

I don't think they did either, but why would she be over the moon happy?

Well you can give someone an orgasm without having full penetrative sex and I'll just leave it at that. Let's just foreplay alone can be pretty powerful on its own.

The list I have of loves on this show is small, very small but Ryan Sutter is one of them. I can't believe I don't remember that. Maybe because it was Trista talking. I was too busy grinning at Ryan more than likely.

I may be wrong, or she talked about it more than once, but I thought Trista discussed her non-orgasm history with Alex the Bachelor, when she was competing for him, before she later became The Bachelorette.

I can see the shilling opportunities now.

I guess this day and age it's every man for themselves, regardless if you're screwing up someone's life with intimate details on national tv. Very poor taste IMHO.

lleyki wrote:
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The list I have of loves on this show is small, very small but Ryan Sutter is one of them. I can't believe I don't remember that. Maybe because it was Trista talking. I was too busy grinning at Ryan more than likely.

I may be wrong, or she talked about it more than once, but I thought Trista discussed her non-orgasm history with Alex the Bachelor, when she was competing for him, before she later became The Bachelorette.

That's how I remember it as well. I think Alex may have fixed that problem for her, so no need to discuss it with Ryan.

Oh Raven. Cringe city. 

mindless wrote:

lleyki wrote:
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The list I have of loves on this show is small, very small but Ryan Sutter is one of them. I can't believe I don't remember that. Maybe because it was Trista talking. I was too busy grinning at Ryan more than likely.

I may be wrong, or she talked about it more than once, but I thought Trista discussed her non-orgasm history with Alex the Bachelor, when she was competing for him, before she later became The Bachelorette.

That's how I remember it as well. I think Alex may have fixed that problem for her, so no need to discuss it with Ryan.

It's been so long ago, but I thought she discussed that on their wedding special as well? I remember being stunned that she would discuss something so intimate on national tv. :shocked!: