Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

I have been in the hospital and sure did miss a lot. Can't wait to watch their one on one from Monday's episode.

Hope you are doing well now Diana. You are going to have your work cut out for you catching up on all the drama!

Diana wrote:I have been in the hospital and sure did miss a lot. Can't wait to watch their one on one from Monday's episode.

Sending well wishes

cmarci93 wrote:IMO I don't think Vanessa is going to like how Nick and raven were on her hometown date. Raven and nick look very touchy with each other.

I don't see why she should have a problem since, IMO, the way Nick is with Vanessa is on a totally different level than with any other girl. It's not even in the same universe IMO when compared to the others. When compared to other F1s she has it pretty easy, so IMO, if she has a problem she needs to get over it. This idea that she would get pedestal treatment that literally no other F1 has gotten is ludicrous to me and if she has any sense she will move on and focus on her own relationship. If she doesn't, I don't have much sympathy for her. And I say this as someone that likes her.

Diana. Hope all is well

AllAboutLove wrote:

cmarci93 wrote:IMO I don't think Vanessa is going to like how Nick and raven were on her hometown date. Raven and nick look very touchy with each other.

I don't see why she should have a problem since, IMO, the way Nick is with Vanessa is on a totally different level than with any other girl. It's not even in the same universe IMO when compared to the others. When compared to other F1s she has it pretty easy, so IMO, if she has a problem she needs to get over it. This idea that she would get pedestal treatment that literally no other F1 has gotten is ludicrous to me and if she has any sense she will move on and focus on her own relationship. If she doesn't, I don't have much sympathy for her. And I say this as someone that likes her.

I'm going to have to agree although I've seen nothing that says Vanessa puts herself on a pedastol in life. But if she pulls an Emily ATFR, I won't have a great deal of understanding. Nick is a great communicator so IMO, her getting it should not be so difficult. Nick was TB, afterall. I have no sympathy for not understanding that when all is said and done no matter who the lead!

ETA: Diana, I hope your feeling much better!

Putting myself in V's shoes.... I honestly cannot fault her for coming  across as entitled...or whatever people are seeing... I do feel like IMO Nick gave her reason to believe she was F1 (the "reassurances" she refers to) so the expectations of course are going to be raised, even if your head knows he has a show to make, your heart feels this is your REAL LIFE the show/others are interfering with IMO.  The edit isn't helping Vs case, for example, we see V saying "he makes me feel so beautiful" in an ITM but not the 1:1 time leading to that statement... how many other moments are we missing?

Nick and Vanessa are both quiet on SM since yesterday morning. No IG stories, no SC. TPTB are not going to risk 'orange couch' again.

@Diana, Hope all is well. Sending good vibes your way!  

N and Raven photos r nothing like the distance shots of V on top of N on the boat. The htv look playful and sexy whilst the the boat looks intimate and personal. AMO. Have to wonder how intimate their time was given nothing was shown? Live in hope we will still see some of the love story.

Vanessa also said her fave couple is K and Shawn. Well... looking at what Shawn had to put up with as F1, I think Vanessa should be just fine with whatever has been shown or transpired. If anything, I think she has been reassured (she herself said so) a lot by Nick and he's done a great job being the Bachelor and then being Nick (with Vanessa mostly/only IMO). If Vanessa can't get over stuff or can't differentiate what is "the show" from what is real then I don't have much to add to that. This is the show. Nick may be unique in some ways but he has to make a show. So hopefully she recognizes that and takes comfort in how honest and open and loving Nick has been towards her -- the latter especially which I haven't seen him be with anyone else. Even Sharleen who knows Nick very well has said Nick has never looked at another woman the way he looks at Vanessa -- which says it all, IMO.

Vanessa had the F1 date in Bimini (period). For the HTDs, Raven has to amp up the "chemistry" it's been missing so far - Sharleen says it too. There has to be a reason why she is F2, IMO.

So for HTD Nick and Vanessa tried out a day in the life of Vanessa - all that chemistry stuff - Check; Nick and Rachel also did a "Sunday" in the life of Rachel (I think they went to church?); IMO - play and fun for Raven's (what do you do in Hoxie?); I guess Cheese Pasta really just like to shop. Nick is on different stages of relationship with each of the women, I believe Vanessa is leading the pack before the HTD.

This yellow bracelet deserves it's own IG account.
What's the betting Twitter finally cottons on from the hard work done sleuthing on here.

Also think someone needs to compose a poem/rap which incorporates yellow bracelet & orange couch & chill.
Sorry- my sense of humour people don't always fathom.

I've listed the reasons why IMO Nick chooses Vanessa on the previous thread, but really in essence it boils down to two things:
Forehead Lean
Monkey embrace

It is LOVE.