Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 6 Feb 6 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

mprssdbyu wrote: I have a feeling the environment in house was far from warm and fuzzy. If I'm  being honest, I feel like Raven was driving the anti-Vanessa train esp after reading some of her twitter now that filming has wrapped. Vanessa is beginning to feel the heat and target on her back, IMO. If RS knew she was the frontrunner before season hit the final stage obviously the girls knew and they acted out accordingly.  I'm just not buying the story of Vanessa complaining about Danielle L., especially  after screen caps captured in real time. I think RS got his stories mixed up. If she supposedly told Nick that during their alone time, how does he or anyone know what she said? Were they hiding behind a piece of furniture listening?

With that said, I do like all 3 final girls. I put more weight on their social media where it does not involve fighting for one guy.

Lara wrote:

ukglasgowkiiss wrote:I wonder if thats the incident that some of them were tweeting about where they said cfa? Do we hv a link to that convo.  Corinne & Raven were in the chat i think.

That would make sense because the three of them were in the team opposite her.

https://instagram.com/p/BOX_1N1Ddr8/


I'm honestly totally on their side on this one. She WAS crying for attention, IMO. It was very childish and manipulative. It's okay to be upset, but to blame Nick and the show for making her always compete? That's the whole point of the show! I hate the special snowflake syndrome that lets people think they don't have to play by the same rules as everyone else. IMO.

Lara wrote:

ukglasgowkiiss wrote:I wonder if thats the incident that some of them were tweeting about where they said cfa? Do we hv a link to that convo.  Corinne & Raven were in the chat i think.

That would make sense because the three of them were in the team opposite her.

https://instagram.com/p/BOX_1N1Ddr8/


I'm honestly totally on their side on this one. She WAS crying for attention, IMO. It was very childish and manipulative. It's okay to be upset, but to blame Nick and the show for making her always compete? That's the whole point of the show! I hate the special snowflake syndrome that lets people think they don't have to play by the same rules as everyone else. IMO.

If you’ve done any reading on the Bachelor casting process, you know the final round means being flown to L.A., filling out a lot of paperwork including questionnaires and psyche quizzes, getting some medical tests done, speaking with a background check guy, and finally, doing a test ITM followed by a chat with a room full of producers. I will never forget the conversation I had with one producer in that room. For the record, I think very fondly of this producer and we’ve since learned a lot about each other and bonded in many ways, which perhaps further etches this moment in my memory. I was being asked several questions by several producers about myself when I was asked what people usually think of me when they first meet me. I answered that people usually assume that I’m either a ditz (because I’m quite girly and am often judged for being dressed up, and I also have a tendency to fill awkward silences with nervous conversation) or a snob (because I can be shy when I first meet people and I’ve learned it can come off as standoffish). This one producer then asked me, if I had to identify only as one or the other, a ditz or a snob, which I would say I am. I responded, “Neither, because I am neither.” He pressed, “But if you had to identify as one or the other. You have to pick one.” We both remained stubborn until I grew exasperated, insisting that I am neither, but that if I had to pick one, I guess I would say I’m closer to being a snob than a ditz. His response: “So, what things are you snobby about?” Before I even knew what happened, I felt myself becoming defensive for “being a snob,” when my focus should have been on the fact that I’d been completely—and wrongfully—manipulated into that corner.
flare.com Sharleen Joynt

mprssdbyu wrote: I have a feeling the environment in house was far from warm and fuzzy. If I'm  being honest, I feel like Raven was driving the anti-Vanessa train esp after reading some of her twitter now that filming has wrapped. Vanessa is beginning to feel the heat and target on her back, IMO. If RS knew she was the frontrunner before season hit the final stage obviously the girls knew and they acted out accordingly.  I'm just not buying the story of Vanessa complaining about Danielle L., especially  after screen caps captured in real time. I think RS got his stories mixed up. If she supposedly told Nick that during their alone time, how does he or anyone know what she said? Were they hiding behind a piece of furniture listening?

With that said, I do like all 3 final girls. I put more weight on their social media where it does not involve fighting for one guy.

see2love wrote:Even if TPTB ask leading questions, she could have answered while acknowledging that it is the nature of the show and she will make her moments count as opposed to the crying and being whinny.