Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - BIP - Discussion

coolangel wrote:I am going to defend Lauren here. Speaking from experience, people in emotionally abusive relationships often times don't see the red flags which others do. They continue to believe that things would get better/it's just a phase and the person would change. The fact that Amanda keeps getting back with him inspite of knowing this is IMO proof of what a master manipulator Josh is (JMO).

I don't support friends making themselves a part of others relationships but if they suspect abuse of any kind, they absolutely should say something IMO. My friends saw the signs way before I did even though we were all teenagers and I am very grateful to them. Some day if Amanda manages to get away from this creep (JMO), she will be grateful to Lauren too for doing whatever it takes to get Amanda to see his emotionally abusive ways IMO.

All JMO.

Ladybug82 wrote:I wouldn't give her too much credit.  Though her responses have been more subtle, than directly throwing him under the bus, IMO, Amanda's said plenty and if she herself hasn't said it directly, bestie Lauren has.  She (or someone who has access to her SM) even changed an old IG picture of them from having Josh's IG handle to @douchebag.  So, yea, she hasn't been silent, IMO.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BK_WpU4DWMN/?hl=en

Cocoasneeze wrote:I'm loving Josh getting dragged. He IMO is emotionally abusive and manipulative. I'm all for Amanda's ex and Lauren spilling the beans, and Amanda writing a book. No one deserves it more than Josh, IMO.

Laura Walsh wrote:After reading all of the above over the past couple days, as always I have to give my 2 cents.  For what it's worth  I have to say whether Amanda has a reason or not, which I don't know that she does, I believe it does show her as classless for snarking at Josh's mother on SM.  And again, I have to mention Andi in saying that through Josh and Andi's entire engagement, after the break up, in her book and even after when I heard his mother was really saying cruel things on SM about  Andi, Andi did not say a single thing to or about his mother on SM.  She certainly may have in private to close family or friends but never on SM.  

I never liked the fact that Andi wrote the book as I believe private relationships should remain private so I am not giving Andi a pass on that but just saying she had enough respect to leave his family out of it all on SM.  To me that shows respect because like it or not MM is Josh's mother and should be respected as such.  If Amanda has something to say about MM it would show more class if she spoke to her privately inside of favoring snark tweets about her, et cetera on SM.  All of the above is JMO

Amanda did a short live IG while she was in Columbia and one of the questions was whether she is still with Josh.  And Lauren answered "No.  She's not."  And then Lauren said "I'll answer that one."   Seems that Lauren should butt out of this.  Lauren is her friend and not her mother and should keep out of it.

And although I'm not condoning Josh's behavior, Amanda has to take some of the responsibility for going back with him and bringing him back into the girls lives (even though she said she wouldn't do that.)   That's why I think Amanda is fake because she did her share of wanting to get Josh back but vehemently denied that they were even "dating" even though there was loads of proof out there that she was.  For instance, that "Coffee date" that she touted.  My gut tells me she never had a coffee date with anyone.  It was just to make Josh jealous so he would contact her, which he did.  These are games that teenagers play while in high school, not a woman with two children and a 32 year old man.

These are all just my opinions.

Cocoasneeze wrote:I'm loving Josh getting dragged. He IMO is emotionally abusive and manipulative. I'm all for Amanda's ex and Lauren spilling the beans, and Amanda writing a book. No one deserves it more than Josh, IMO.