Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

I'd like to add that for whatever reason blogger boy says Vanessa will be a mini villain and not many girls liked her blah blah blah...well she's the closest to Dani M of all people. A Neonatal Nurse and a Special Ed teacher to me share similar qualities that are nothing short of a bad thing. JMO

You know what?... Most people are not their jobs. You can't judge a person's "goodness" or "not so goodness" based on what they do. In some cases, yes....thank God.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, the special ed teacher and the neonatal nurse MAY not be the "goodest" girls in that lot. At least, I hope they don't think so.

I think that you can see many character traits by looking at one's job. It takes a lot of patience, perseverance and compassion to be a special education teacher or a neonatal nurse. That's not to say they are "good girls", but I certainly do think those character traits are good ones to have.

@Lisa, this is not true every season but often we will see dates before HTD that is just with the couple and crew, the rest feature the locale and the public are often involved, either as spectators or part of the scene. Some on the board speculated in the past (usually during the F3 dates) that the type of date can indicate the stage the lead and contestant are in their relationship. We speculated that the ones who had the beach dates or snorkeling dates indicate who moves up to F2.  I am speculating that Nick and Vanessa had the furthest connection by the time they were in Bimini.

julychild wrote:You know what?... Most people are not their jobs. You can't judge a person's "goodness" or "not so goodness" based on what they do. In some cases, yes....thank God.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, the special ed teacher and the neonatal nurse MAY not be the "goodest" girls in that lot. At least, I hope they don't think so.

Yes, I know many people in noble careers who are a**holes. That's not to say that's the case here, but you never really know. IMO.

Cila51290 wrote:I'd like to add that for whatever reason blogger boy says Vanessa will be a mini villain and not many girls liked her blah blah blah...well she's the closest to Dani M of all people. A Neonatal Nurse and a Special Ed teacher to me share similar qualities that are nothing short of a bad thing. JMO

Speaking of the drama with Vanessa, I haven't read the US Weekly article with Nick on the cover but I read somewhere that it was not positive for Danielle L. and did suggest that she did the show for her career/brand. I thought that was interesting because I've always maintained that I think the producers/show is US Weekly's source. So it is interesting that the article was very positive for Vanessa but not so much for Danielle L. and RS's spoiler is that Vanessa told Nick and others that Danielle was fake.

lleyki wrote:

Cila51290 wrote:I'd like to add that for whatever reason blogger boy says Vanessa will be a mini villain and not many girls liked her blah blah blah...well she's the closest to Dani M of all people. A Neonatal Nurse and a Special Ed teacher to me share similar qualities that are nothing short of a bad thing. JMO

Speaking of the drama with Vanessa, I haven't read the US Weekly article with Nick on the cover but I read somewhere that it was not positive for Danielle L. and did suggest that she did the show for her career/brand. I thought that was interesting because I've always maintained that I think the producers/show is US Weekly's source. So it is interesting that the article was very positive for Vanessa but not so much for Danielle L. and RS's spoiler is that Vanessa told Nick and others that Danielle was fake.

I read the article with Nick on the cover and it said that Vanessa/Rachel were there for the right reasons and that the other girls accused Danielle L. of being fake. Interestingly, the article didn't mention anything about Raven or Danielle M and we know they both go far. I also think the show gives US Weekly info because they tend to get stories that RS doesn't mention in his columns. The article also didn't mention anything about a blowup between Rachel/Vanessa.

Vanessa did a sit down interview with Glamour Mag. It will be posted after the show tonight.

julychild wrote:You know what?... Most people are not their jobs. You can't judge a person's "goodness" or "not so goodness" based on what they do. In some cases, yes....thank God.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, the special ed teacher and the neonatal nurse MAY not be the "goodest" girls in that lot. At least, I hope they don't think so.

From my own experience my younger brother went to a special education school and those teachers were some of the nicest teachers I've ever met. Not to discredit other teachers of course but you have to have A LOT more patience and compassion to be a special ed teacher. Sure you can be an azz**** outside of your job that wasn't my whole point though. My point was that even if they're portrayed as villains on this show their jobs still seem to show a softer side to them especially those qualities I mentioned above.

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Can't sleep, so decided to give Twitter a shot.....again. #helpme
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fairytaleprincess wrote:

lleyki wrote:

Cila51290 wrote:I'd like to add that for whatever reason blogger boy says Vanessa will be a mini villain and not many girls liked her blah blah blah...well she's the closest to Dani M of all people. A Neonatal Nurse and a Special Ed teacher to me share similar qualities that are nothing short of a bad thing. JMO

Speaking of the drama with Vanessa, I haven't read the US Weekly article with Nick on the cover but I read somewhere that it was not positive for Danielle L. and did suggest that she did the show for her career/brand. I thought that was interesting because I've always maintained that I think the producers/show is US Weekly's source. So it is interesting that the article was very positive for Vanessa but not so much for Danielle L. and RS's spoiler is that Vanessa told Nick and others that Danielle was fake.

I read the article with Nick on the cover and it said that Vanessa/Rachel were there for the right reasons and that the other girls accused Danielle L. of being fake. Interestingly, the article didn't mention anything about Raven or Danielle M and we know they both go far.  I also think the show gives US Weekly info because they tend to get stories that RS doesn't mention in his columns. The article also didn't mention anything about a blowup between Rachel/Vanessa.

I believe the article in question was from Life & Style, not US Weekly:
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/the-bachelor-nick-viall-women-121071/photos/bachelor-nick-viall-women-danielle-l-218254#photo-anchor

Life & Style is IMO much less reliable/linked to the show.

This was the article I think is being referred to - if there's a separate US Weekly article also stating this, then I stand corrected and would appreciate a link if someone has one (TYIA)

From social media, it does seem like Danielle L is pretty well-liked by most of the girls and still hangs out with them, whereas Vanessa only really seems close to Danielle M. So, I don't doubt what RS said about Vanessa bad-mouthing/backstabbing Danielle L right after her 1-on-1 and getting into a fight with Rachel. It all just depends on how the edit chooses to show it. IMO.