Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Screen Caps - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Maya wrote:

allicat wrote:I would guess maybe that the "Mesnick" cry with Nick happened on the same day as Elan's birthday(October 27th) since this was posted in the Media thread and it's from https://www.instagram.com/chrisbharrison/ Same shirt!
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/14659253_1152436351517435_7026208987473248256_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTM3MDUyMDg1NzE0NzY5NTg2OQ%3D%3D.2

According to RS Nick and Rachel have a date on Oct 26th. It's the last date before hd. There is no RC because Nick comes to talk to the girls and sends Kristina home. I'm gessing this would happen next day (Oct 27th) and now knowing that he wore the same shirt on Elan's bday I'm assuming his Mesnick moment was over sending Kristina home. Which also kind of explains why he had the yellow bracelet on (he would see V that day along with rest of the girls).
Hope you guys get the point, English is not my first language;)

JC noticed that he wore the yellow bracelet on his 1 on 1 with Kristina, so I'm not sure that there is any rhyme or reason to it. RS was wrong on when Corinne went to Nick's hotel. @marriedarockstar found the hotel in Bimini, not St. Thomas. I agree that he's probably crying over the railing about sending Kristina home.

Just to clear up location and timing of table flip. It appears to happen in St Thomas at the same location as his 2 on 1 with Danielle. I'm pretty positive the same building/ backdrop shows up in both screencaps. I'm guessing he was sad and feeling insecure. Maybe the reaction from both girls upon letting them go was too relatable for him. IMO, he looked scared $hitless talking to the remaining 6.

@Maya Do not worry about English not being your first language. Your post makes total sense.

grace8136 wrote:Here's a close up of it. I think JC is right. He has on a different bathing suit than the one with V.


Litta's SC

This has to be Nick and Kristina. Nick is wearing the same bathing suit and he has on the yellow bracelet. Both of which he is wearing in the photo below from Nick and Kristina's 1-on-1 date.




source: RS

@jessietrey Source links are needed for the pics or they will be deleted.  Thanks!

If it's RS, please just note Source: RS, as we do not link to his site, do want to make sure the pics are properly credited.  I think the pics are on the site somewhere from the original posters.

Just a totally random observation - in the main trailer when Nick talks to the girls about this not working out for him you see a few shots of Dani M in a white robe and then you see an ITM of her saying that she's shocked by what he said. In this ITM you can see her in a white robe and grey undershirt. In the closet crying SC with Vanessa and Dani M, you can see Dani is wearing a grey shirt and I feel like this a continuation of the post-Nick talk.

I feel like Vanessa is deliberately missing in the shots from that scene because production are trying to create a thing of "Will Nick be rejected again?" hype. And I also feel like the "stupid decision" VO from Vanessa is spliced into that scene of the tears from maybe the 2-1 Taylor/Corinne thing.

I can't seen Dani M being allowed to come back after elimination to cry with Vanessa. And I feel like she's not dramatic enough to do that either tbh.

This is all IMO - and Vanessa could just leave but all her insta posting is making me doubt that.

I personally believe the crying is after Danielle M is let go - the hair, sweater, crying in both shots and the other shot being sleuthed to be (St Thomas or Bahamas can't remember which one) when Danielle is let go.

While they don't allow the girls to go back to the room often after being dumped - I do remember them doing it on Brad 2.0 with Britt.

Plus if the season continues to how its going - I believe the story line if Vanessa is F1 - won't be who Nick picks but rather will Vanessa (again if F1) pick him back. Vanessa has been front and center all season with most people putting her in the F1 position right off the bat. They need to create doubt/drama so if they know that Vanessa is super close with Danielle, not as close with other girls and just got into a blow out with Rachel I can see the producers making Danielle go back to the room to trigger an emotional reaction out of Vanessa. It is right before hometowns when all the girls are at their breaking points - sick of being around each other - and real emotions are forming. To take your best friend away - but make you see them super hurt and upset in the process would create a reaction from Vanessa. IMO.

@sbolduc
I think you are on to something. I have been assuming that the closet crying scene and Vanessa  saying the line that she is sick of his stupid choices were related to Danielle going home.  They seem like good friends and it would be disturbing for Vanessa to watch her best friend go home hurting, especially before Corinne. I think that ultimately Nick explained to Vanessa that he sent Danielle home when he did to spare her additional hurt as she was developing feelings for him when he was falling in love with Vanessa. I think that she would understand that and agree with his choice to spare her friend more pain in the long run.

Why would letting Danielle M go be a 'stupid choice'?

IMO, it could be viewed by the other girls that way because he's continuously chosen to keep Corinne and let some of the others who they thought of as better friends and wanted them around more or potential matches for who they thought was right for Nick.  Not necessarily what Nick himself thought.  

In the end it's Nicks chose, but if you had a problem with a certain girl or his actions with a certain girl and had voiced it and others had as well, I could see how if you were becoming invested it might be worrisome that he kept you and her.  Drastic differences in personalities, behavior, etc.  JMO.

Ladybug82 wrote:IMO, it could be viewed by the other girls that way because he's continuously chosen to keep Corinne and let some of the others who they thought of as better friends and wanted them around more or potential matches for who they thought was right for Nick.  Not necessarily what Nick himself thought.  

In the end it's Nicks chose, but if you had a problem with a certain girl or his actions with a certain girl and had voiced it and others had as well, I could see how if you were becoming invested it might be worrisome that he kept you and her.  Drastic differences in personalities, behavior, etc.  JMO.

If they aren't aware of how this show works then yes it would be upsetting for them .If they knew the way this show is produced for sure they would get "it" and understand what was actually going on around them.

Ladybug82 wrote:IMO, it could be viewed by the other girls that way because he's continuously chosen to keep Corinne and let some of the others who they thought of as better friends and wanted them around more or potential matches for who they thought was right for Nick.  Not necessarily what Nick himself thought.  

In the end it's Nicks chose, but if you had a problem with a certain girl or his actions with a certain girl and had voiced it and others had as well, I could see how if you were becoming invested it might be worrisome that he kept you and her.  Drastic differences in personalities, behavior, etc.  JMO.

Yes, well said @Ladybug82