Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - F1-F6 - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Depends on how his season is received  He won over a lot of people on BIP but the audience for that is way smaller than the audience for the Bachelor/Bachelorette (4 million compared to 7-9 million) and from what I've seen on social media there's still a lot of people who didn't want him to be the Bachelor. Leads always end up being less liked by the end of their season so if he sends home the fan favourite or handles a situation poorly the fans that were swayed over to his side during BIP will go right back to disliking him IMO. Just look at how many people turned on Ben during the whole 'I love you' debacle, and he had a much bigger head start in terms of popularity than Nick.

avoice wrote:He is gone ace it. With popularity of  winning seasons of bachelor, he is gone rake in the votes and dance to victory. I can see it to.  JMO

Welllll, I wouldn't go that far... IMO. Ppl who usually win DWTS are usually the person with the best (emotional) story/journey of some sort.

bblake wrote:Depends on how his season is received  He won over a lot of people on BIP but the audience for that is way smaller than the audience for the Bachelor/Bachelorette (4 million compared to 7-9 million) and from what I've seen on social media there's still a lot of people who didn't want him to be the Bachelor. Leads always end up being less liked by the end of their season so if he sends home the fan favourite or handles a situation poorly the fans that were swayed over to his side during BIP will go right back to disliking him IMO. Just look at how many people turned on Ben during the whole 'I love you' debacle, and he had a much bigger head start in terms of popularity than Nick.

Truth. IMO.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

avoice wrote:He is gone ace it. With popularity of  winning seasons of bachelor, he is gone rake in the votes and dance to victory. I can see it to.  JMO

Welllll, I wouldn't go that far... IMO.

I think it will be different with Nick because he seriously can move. So I see him doing way better that Sean or Chris. And did love Sean but not his dancing. I think Nick will blow everyone away. In my opinion. Just what I sense.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

Sprite wrote:Didn't Ben say he couldn't do DWTS because he had some injury that would be exacerbated with all the training? Plus, they may have already had Happily Ever After in mind for them. Another ABC show that executives may have wanted to use for cross promotion.

I think he mentioned the injury in passing, but he specifically said he wanted to focus on Lauren the few times he was asked whether or not he would do it/why he didn't end up doing it. Also, they spoke about turning down a show right after the airing of the bachelor, for the same reason he "turned down" DWTS: he (and Lauren) thought they needed to focus on their realtionship. They didn't actually agree to the show till like May (according to things they've said in interviews and such.)

Ah, I didn't realize he had turned it down. I just vaguely remembered him saying he would be open to it earlier on.

In that case, they'll probably offer it to nick, unless he is Ben F or JP level unpopular. IMO.

avoice wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

avoice wrote:He is gone ace it. With popularity of  winning seasons of bachelor, he is gone rake in the votes and dance to victory. I can see it to.  JMO

Welllll, I wouldn't go that far... IMO.

I think it will be different with Nick because he seriously can move. So  I see him doing way better that Sean or Chris. And did love Sean but not his dancing. I think Nick will blow everyone away. In my opinion. Just what I sense.

Possibly. But I reckon there's going to be 2 or 3 other ppl that will clench the story for the title. It's never about the dancing on that show, it's about the journey IMO.

nothatgirl wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

Sprite wrote:Didn't Ben say he couldn't do DWTS because he had some injury that would be exacerbated with all the training? Plus, they may have already had Happily Ever After in mind for them. Another ABC show that executives may have wanted to use for cross promotion.

I think he mentioned the injury in passing, but he specifically said he wanted to focus on Lauren the few times he was asked whether or not he would do it/why he didn't end up doing it. Also, they spoke about turning down a show right after the airing of the bachelor, for the same reason he "turned down" DWTS: he (and Lauren) thought they needed to focus on their realtionship. They didn't actually agree to the show till like May (according to things they've said in interviews and such.)

Ah, I didn't realize he had turned it down. I just vaguely remembered him saying he would be open to it earlier on.

In that case, they'll probably offer it to nick, unless he is Ben F or JP level unpopular. IMO.

I don't know that he specifically turned it down; just that he explained that he wanted to focus on Lauren (and I mean, cant blame him, after all that happened that season IMO.)

I think Nick is a lock, if what he said about TPTB not wanting the cast to do it anymore is moot. OR maybe it won't even matter if he doesn't end up with a lady at the end of this anyway.

I thought there would be new info in f4, but it's just pages of DWTS speculations? We need something new to talk about, IMO.

So is the assumption that the F3 RC was last night meaning the MTP should be starting tomorrow and Tuesday, then LCDs Wed and Thurs and then FRC Saturday assuming there is a day break between?  I wonder how many from his family will go, maybe just the parents, a sister and a brother?

sdmom wrote:I thought there would be new info in f4, but it's just pages of DWTS speculations? We need something new to talk about, IMO.

i wish someone from Finland would spot them filming and get a pic or two . I think FIR Rachel and alleged frontrunner Vanessa are the F2, just a guess at this point but seems logical for now.

I think it's Vanessa and Raven as F2. After all, Raven did get the Waukesha date where she got to meet Bella so he must like her a lot. And then Rachel as F3 and (hopefully) the next Bachelorette. I'm kind of scared that they're going to give her the Britt/Olivia "villain" edit though, since she got the FIR.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I am having faith/hope that, that is not the edit she gets.

The villian edit either goes to the FIR person or the first one on one person. **IMO** So, Danielle M, watch yo back girl!