Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - F1- F6 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

lightredemption wrote:Matty literally gave a monologue on all the things he loves about Georgia: how ambitious he is, how smart she is, how funny she is...

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What a day for the forum to go down! Oh wait, tomorrow would be worse 

I think there's a difference between Survivor and Bachelor with the betting, as you said [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Kristie was a raging hot favourite from about week 2, when she had absolutely no reason to be,  she was in a terrible position in the game, and was being portrayed as being completely unhinged, while Lee has always been to the forefront, sure he's had times where he's been a bit quieter, but he's always been a contender.

I can't remember off the top of my head who was favoured in Richie's season, but I think it was Alex, until right before the end when "Nikki for F1" went into overdrive, because that's what the edit was showing.

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Bobette wrote:OK so this may seem a bit off topic and a warning it contains a spoiler alert for any fans of Survivor who haven't watched last night's finale yet, but I think it's also a massive clue for F1 so bear with me...

So after Kristie's surprise win in Survivor last night I checked the Sportsbet odds and they had her as favourite almost from the start (see screenshot from odds at 5th Sept).  This is so incredibly dodgy!!!

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She was amazing in the last episode but up till then her gameplay was completely flakey and she's been on the chopping block every week.  I just don't believe anyone without insider knowledge would have tipped her to win.

Which makes me think Sportsbet is definitely being fed information.  Lee being the hot favourite to win Bachette didn't seem suspicious because he's so popular but Kristie?  Totally different story. I'm now convinced Lee is F1.

What a day for the forum to go down! Oh wait, tomorrow would be worse 

I think there's a difference between Survivor and Bachelor with the betting, as you said [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Kristie was a raging hot favourite from about week 2, when she had absolutely no reason to be,  she was in a terrible position in the game, and was being portrayed as being completely unhinged, while Lee has always been to the forefront, sure he's had times where he's been a bit quieter, but he's always been a contender.

I can't remember off the top of my head who was favoured in Richie's season, but I think it was Alex, until right before the end when "Nikki for F1" went into overdrive, because that's what the edit was showing.

Bobette wrote:

Exactly.  And yes, Alex was also favourite early on even when a lot of viewers were thinking she was just embarrassing herself by being so clingy and full-on.  Combine this with the fact that betting on Lee was reportedly restricted to $10 max and to me it's clear the betting folk know something - and clearly they think Lee's got it in the bag.

SugarAndSpice wrote:

Bobette wrote:

Exactly.  And yes, Alex was also favourite early on even when a lot of viewers were thinking she was just embarrassing herself by being so clingy and full-on.  Combine this with the fact that betting on Lee was reportedly restricted to $10 max and to me it's clear the betting folk know something - and clearly they think Lee's got it in the bag.

Matty was also restricted on the first week to $10 max. The following day could bet up to $100 on Lee and $60 on Matty. I didn't follow max bets after that week. It seems to change every day/week. Definitely need to pay more attention to odds and max bets next season!

Bobette wrote:

SugarAndSpice wrote:

Bobette wrote:

Exactly.  And yes, Alex was also favourite early on even when a lot of viewers were thinking she was just embarrassing herself by being so clingy and full-on.  Combine this with the fact that betting on Lee was reportedly restricted to $10 max and to me it's clear the betting folk know something - and clearly they think Lee's got it in the bag.

Matty was also restricted on the first week to $10 max. The following day could bet up to $100 on Lee and $60 on Matty. I didn't follow max bets after that week. It seems to change every day/week. Definitely need to pay more attention to odds and max bets next season!

Oh OK, that's interesting - I didn't realise Matty was also restricted.  Hmmmm.... I really didn't place too much stock on the betting odds before last night.  Lee being odd-on favourite seemed reasonable and justified, and even with Alex from Richie's season, she got the white rose so there was at least something behind her odds.  

But Kristie being favourite with absolutely no justification from what we saw on the show, nor even from social media (she wasn't a fan favourite - lots of people thought she was playing very poorly) is a huge red flag.  I wonder who the insiders are that are betting and driving down the odds - friends of cameramen perhaps???!

romance realist wrote:I just placed a bet on Matty.
Could be pretty easy $ I thought.
This required making an online account with the bookie and placing funds into that account.
I deposited $50 but when I went to bet the whole amount, I found out there is a $28 limit for betting on the Bach. So I think these betting agencies use these kinds of bets to attract new custom. What they win or lose in monetary terms is not the win for them. What they gain is a swag of new customers like me who will now return to their website to bet their remaining funds and a % of those will become returnees. I aim to win a measly amount and then close the account. The process of making the bet reveals the other business decisions behind Bach betting and IMO we should not read anything much into it.
IMO

SugarAndSpice wrote:

romance realist wrote:I just placed a bet on Matty.
Could be pretty easy $ I thought.
This required making an online account with the bookie and placing funds into that account.
I deposited $50 but when I went to bet the whole amount, I found out there is a $28 limit for betting on the Bach. So I think these betting agencies use these kinds of bets to attract new custom. What they win or lose in monetary terms is not the win for them. What they gain is a swag of new customers like me who will now return to their website to bet their remaining funds and a % of those will become returnees. I aim to win a measly amount and then close the account. The process of making the bet reveals the other business decisions behind Bach betting and IMO we should not read anything much into it.
IMO

Wahh?? That can't be right. The max Bet on Lee at the moment is $500 (1.40:1) and Matty J $114 (2.75:1). My partner's account has $50 on Matty J, but its split between 5 bets at $10 each (between his mates) but all on the same account. I don't understand sportsbet at all!