Ben and Lauren Happily Ever After - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

emusha wrote: It's very telling that he's only now sharing his renaissance costume side of him and he seems to be doing that very slowly.

havadrpepper wrote:

emusha wrote: It's very telling that he's only now sharing his renaissance costume side of him and he seems to be doing that very slowly.

Just curious... do you really think Ben does this renaissance thing outside the show? IMO, when I saw that clip from the show I saw it as a set up for a storyline on the show.  

I still say that this whole HEA thing is a storyline that Ben and Lauren are playing out under the guise of a "reality show" but it is not their actual reality.  I just see so many things on the show that I can't fathom them actually doing on a day-to-day real life basis.  If this was their reality, why hasn't he been shown working?  Why aren't their long time friends and family more involved? Instead it is a show that is showing off other Bach alum and supposedly setting up the journey to the wedding.  Even Fleiss has admitted that he is out to produce a good television show with no reality in it.

Neither Ben nor Lauren are perfect and they probably do have issues but I just don't think they are as bad as the show is making them out to be.  I still say there will be that televised and paid for wedding in the next few months....

Again, all IMHO.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:^ 2 epsiodes? Haven't the wedding specials been only 2 hours?

FMG2015 wrote:I still am reminded of the difference between what is said on the show and what Is said in interviews. There's very little reality in reality tv. The only real part of this episode I feel is the emotions during that session. I call BS on the scene where he actually called it off in a tux and wedding dress. Manufactured drama with the road trip, & visit to Chris. Unless they went back to the mansion twice, Ben took over Lauren's snapchat that day and they were being playful and affectionate in the mansion. Lauren pretended to steal a clock. In the fan thread we all just assumed they were there for Ben to give nick advice before moving in. They are shown to go to this random couple counseling yet they actually enrolled in couple counseling at their church so they can work on communicating better. On the show Ben acted as if he had never thought about who he would want as groomsmen but then in an interview with the knot he said he's had the list of names in his phone for a long time so he doesn't forget who's always been there for him.
IMO, there seems to be a disconnect and I think the producers are behind this... Steering and manipulating the 'storyline' the way the want. BenLo are their puppets. Of course they have to obey what they say. They realize they need to play nice to get their paycheck. I do think because of this Lauren and Ben have had to work through issues they didn't realize would occur because of the tv life/real life differences. I do believe it has been a learning experience for them as a couple and they seem dedicated to make it work. I see the love they have for each other in the way they look at each other.

havadrpepper wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:^ 2 epsiodes? Haven't the wedding specials been only 2 hours?

Trista and Ryan had a 3 episode "special" showing all the prep leading up to the wedding with the wedding being the last episode.  It even included manufactured drama.  I just watched them a couple weeks ago from the ABC website.  Fleiss pulled the same things in their 3 shows that he is doing to Ben and Lauren now.  He's just got more time to insert the drama since it is a 9 episode show.

albean99 wrote:I thought the most real part of the show was when they were talking about Ben's fears at the session (other than having it with the other 4). I get that Ben is having cold feet but not the stated reason. I would think they'd know a lot about each other by this time in their relationship.

I have to say I'm more on Lauren's side in this. Ben should have opened up about his fears long before he got to this point but maybe this was played up for the show. I do think a lot of this was producer driven. The drive to get to know one another better was in good part an advertisement for Fiat. I doubt the wedding was actually called off. It was probably never going to be that soon but this makes for more televised angst.