Ben and Lauren Happily Ever After - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

casjacknick wrote:@Ash2214 Probably as many times as he told both of his final two he loved them. When Ben messes up he goes big.

mindless wrote:I finally watched. I sort of get where Ben's coming from. They don't seem to have the best communication and I think with his insecurities he's scared of really expressing himself to her in case she doesn't take it so well. It's like he thinks that once they truly get to know each other inside and out, she won't love him anymore and that's why he wants to slow things down. That's the impression I got during the therapy discussion. I think he needs someone who pretty much thinks the sun shines out of his behind in order to feel secure and loved, and Lauren does not act like it. She's often a bit dismissive of him, rolling her eyes at him, acting like she's embarrassed of him, which I can't really blame her for, since he's a dorky man baby, but then again I'm not the one who's supposedly in love with him. What I mean is that Lauren doesn't exactly act like his "biggest fan", which is what he said he wanted. She also doesn't strike me as the easiest person to talk to, since she seems to shut down pretty easily. That's not to say she doesn't love him, she just doesn't stroke Ben's ego the way he might want her to.

Ben, on the other hand, isn't the most empathetic of people, I'm sorry to say. He talks a good talk, but I don't think he fully means what he's saying a lot of the time. He's such an overthinker he can make up these grand speeches in his head, but are his words really 100% genuine or is he just saying what he thinks sounds good? He was acting so relieved and even smiley after telling Lauren the wedding's off, even though she was clearly really upset. Even if it was something he needed to get off his chest, you'd think he'd act more sombre and concerned about Lauren's feelings rather than just happy to get out of something he didn't want to do. He's so wrapped up in his own feelings that he has trouble putting himself in other people's shoes. I also didn't like the fact that he seemed to be trying to bribe Lauren into not being upset with the car and the new furniture, but I doubt he paid for any of it himself anyway, so it was probably all scripted. Then again, if his only attempts to make Lauren happy didn't even come from him, then what does that say?

JMOAA.

FMG2015 wrote:http://www.etonline.com/news/203032_exclusive_ben_higgins_and_lauren_bushnell_are_happier_than_ever/

I'm sure filming put this strain on their relationship, IMO. Long hours, producers setting up scenes, and spending 24/7 with each other would wreak havoc on most new couples relationship and intimacy. They went on vacation, went to Honduras and the holidays are coming so lots of quality time together without cameras which is what they've needed and have needed but that's their business and they are in it to learn from each other. Counseling seems to be encouraging them to communicate more which is a good thing.

I do wonder if this is all real and they do want to hold off, can they? It's been talked about that a televised wedding when TPTB want it is likely part of their contract. They seem to love Ben so would they make an exception? They were approached more than once for this show when they initially turned it down.

Aunties_Love wrote:IMO, the next show we will see how they are still together, the wedding will happen and then it does.

They are still together with regards to their Sm, they still seem to be showing a LOT of PDA in it and when you look at it, this epi was likely taped weeks to months ago so if you backtrack through their SM, they are still together for sure and have recently gotten their engagement pics done at the same ranch/vineyard that Kaitlyn/Shawn and Chirs/Whitney had their dates at I think.

http://www.theknotnews.com/lauren-bushnell-ben-higgins-engagement-photos-malibu-15054?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_content=nov2016&utm_campaign=news

I'd highly doubt that they'd recently have those pics done and released if there is a problem with their relationship and the wedding for that matter.

lynnb wrote:this girl is so NOT right for him. ***IMO*** She is an entitled pretty girl, not a soul mate. She wants this and that for them, she gave up her job, she moved to Denver...not even noticing her future husband needs her to slow down and let them breathe and get to know each other.  She is probably used to being spoiled by men (knows nothing about him then tells him she knows him better than he knows himself!) how sad for Ben to have such a self oriented girl he's in love with caught up in the dream of marriage and self-entitlement without being his true best friend and partner. she doesn't know what real sacrifice is in love, all she knows is what she wants. *** IMO***