Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

The F3 is usually at the WTA/MTA and since everyone already knows she's the 'ette, I think she'll be there as well.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] they don't pass on parties. They'll be there all weekend, partying up. Not all go to the ATFR. We have seen in the past the potential BIP are at the ATFR.

ETA: and the Oscars. Some BIP cast were at the Oscars IIRC?

Ladybug82 wrote:All the girls do not come to the AFTR, that is one reason there's a WTA.  There is still plenty of time for her to arrive for a wrap party tomorrow night.  She may not be at the filming but I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to see party with the all the girls and the guys that will show to start placing dibs on them.  

JMO

Is going to obvious that she didn't get picked if she is partying with guys not that it matters because we know that Vanessa gets chosen

rachel has been a busy lady the pass weeks. I hope this is a good WTA and they don't edit things out. Also I don't wanna hear about the Liz issue during the whole episode. Liz was there bc of producers so I don't wanna hear about that.

Ladybug82 wrote:All the girls do not come to the AFTR, that is one reason there's a WTA.  There is still plenty of time for her to arrive for a wrap party tomorrow night.  She may not be at the filming but I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to see party with the all the girls and the guys that will show to start placing dibs on them.  

JMO

Doesn't seem like it as she just put up an Insta Story with her watching while one of the Grey gals takes pics in outfits for the store.

From what I have seen from her Instagram, she usually has to be dragged out to go partying in the first place.

Yea I see raven always at her store working. She hasn't been out with the girls since New Years. Seems like it.

Edgarretana10 wrote:There is no reason for Rachel to be at the WTA in my opinion she can be in ATFR what is the point of her being there everyone knows she is the new bachelorette

She goes on tv for 15 minutes and is fed fluff by CH and her ego is boosted. She has a hair, makeup and fashion stylist do magic on her natural beautiful self and looks stunning for those 15 minutes. During the time she is televised there is nothing negative and many positives so it helps increase her fan base even more prior to her season starting.
That would be the point, IMO.
Plus--just a slight chance some guy is watching who is a real great guy and somehow manages to reach production, pull a major heist and gets on the show last minute. You never know.

cmarci93 wrote:rachel has been a busy lady the pass weeks. I hope this is a good WTA and they don't edit things out. Also I don't wanna hear about the Liz issue during the whole episode. Liz was there bc of producers so I don't wanna hear about that.

That or taking care of her adorable black German Shepard named Boaz. Or visiting her friends or Makenzie (her nephew).

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I mean the girls like the bachelor girls, bc all the other bachelor girls they hangout every week it seems like

cmarci93 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I mean the girls like the bachelor girls, bc all the other bachelor girls they hangout every week it seems like

Yes, I know what you mean. Raven hasn't gone anywhere since the New Years thing in Miami.

I wonder if she's trying to get ready and get things done so she can leave for BIP if she goes

Edgarretana10 wrote:

Ladybug82 wrote:All the girls do not come to the AFTR, that is one reason there's a WTA.  There is still plenty of time for her to arrive for a wrap party tomorrow night.  She may not be at the filming but I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to see party with the all the girls and the guys that will show to start placing dibs on them.  

JMO

Is going to obvious that she didn't get picked if she is partying with guys not that it matters because we know that Vanessa gets chosen

It's happened several times in the past.  They may try to keep them more hidden but someone slips and you see them.  Nothing new, IMO.

JMO

ETA: BIP wont film until after Rachel's season. Meaning it won't be filming until this summer and it's only a couple weeks long.

Raven hasn't done any interviews other for that article from that local business magazine about Grey Suede.  Not even for a local radio station (probably due to it being a Country music station) and her co-worker/friend Caroline does them and she brings no clues to the table.  Only thing she's said new was that Raven's family told her they really liked Nick and that he was taller than they thought he would be. So, I really have no idea if Raven would go on BIP or not.