Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

AllAboutLove wrote:

djogbenyuie wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
Productions usually does that to make the audience get behind certain contestants if they are seen first from what I know and it has significance.

In Nikki's case, whether she was first or just shown first, it indicates to me that she is a frontrunner from the getgo (similar to Snez).

On the other hand, those contestants who get the White Rose (Alex this season and Heather last season) I have noticed they are usually shown a bit later so it seems strategic.

If Nikki ends up F1 then her being shown first out the limo will be like Snez being shown first (same music for both of them).

Just wanted to add that the music seems the same for every first out of the limo. Even the first out for blake season and it wasn't even someone from the F3.

I don't think Blake's season can be used for a pattern since the were still filming when the season aired (they hadn't even filmed HTDs by the first episode) so it is an anomaly.

For S3 and now S4, if and only if Nikki is F1 then it may be a pattern that production had Nikki as the first limo arrival and the same as Snez and used that music for them both. If Nikki is not F1 then it can just be arbitrary and likely only because of the first limo entrance and not the person. Will have to keep a note of it when the season ends to see which one it may be...

Hanate wrote:She would be great as the next Bette but I don't think she will make it far enough to be considered, happy to be proven wrong as I realllly don't want Rach to make it to final 4 (All thought I think she will IMO)

Katiebelle wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:

What! What! OMG - have have tingles in places you don't want to know about!

I had those same tingles. I literally freaked out and was losing my mind! It's so surreal I can barely believe it is true but it is!

I never even thought that he would be an option. I thought after they choose Ben he wouldn't ever be on their radar. So much better than Luke! How long do we have to wait until the season starts? I'll have to start a countdown calendar!

Reywa wrote:I don't trust my judgement much since I tend to believe what I want to but I somehow saw that Richie was more animated when talking about Olena.
Nikki could tone down a bit for sure. It's always better when the guy does the chasing. I would feel sorry for her if she doesn't win or doesn't get the bachelorette gig.

H.E.A.T.H.E.R wrote:Just watched the episode through, tenplay had it online without any ads this morning, what a difference that made without any interruptions.

I get the impression that Nikki fell for Richie straight away, no questions, miss easy peasy lemon squeezie... the red flag for me also, if I were Richie, is where is the growth? where are the challenges? where is the Nikki that might have a crap day and not be nice and happy and all smiles. Cause lets face it, we all have that stuff, looking forward and being honest, I think I'd certainly want an idea of that at least. She seems to be leading... but his response is very positive, he's different with her, he says affirming things to her, especially the 'I'm here for more than fun' (subtext: more than chocolate baths with Alex). He is less scripted with her, or speaking more from the heart? He acts like her high school first love, which is gorgeous.

BUT, a relationship needs to be Fun too! I'm not seeing the fun stuff with Nikki that he has with Alex... I thought the Richie Alex date was heaps of Fun, even though she is throwing herself at him, she's a heart on her sleeve gal and puts her feelings ahead of most everything and everyone, and that comes off as manipulative, and it is manipulative, but i don't think she intends that consciously. IMO Alex will be F2 or let go earlier due to her boy.

Olena, is a champ and everyone loves her, because she is at least representing a modern self respecting woman who refuses to lower herself to climbing over others for affection and ego, and is protecting herself from what I am sure the producers would have worked hard to elicit from her. She's a smart girl, I'm still wondering like everyone else how interested she is in Richie. I have no doubt he's interested in her. She gives him a challenge unlike Nikki and is fun like Alex withough throwing herself at him. She also has the life he is aiming toward, apparently. Question is if he goes for the comfort of Nikki or the challenge and future with Olena.  

So, so much is edited out, that we can't say for sure, and all this is conjecture and some wishful thinking and projection! Bring on the Screen Caps please!!!

Loving reading everyones thoughts, looking forward to more sleuthing!

LoveDovez wrote:

H.E.A.T.H.E.R wrote:Just watched the episode through, tenplay had it online without any ads this morning, what a difference that made without any interruptions.

I get the impression that Nikki fell for Richie straight away, no questions, miss easy peasy lemon squeezie... the red flag for me also, if I were Richie, is where is the growth? where are the challenges? where is the Nikki that might have a crap day and not be nice and happy and all smiles. Cause lets face it, we all have that stuff, looking forward and being honest, I think I'd certainly want an idea of that at least. She seems to be leading... but his response is very positive, he's different with her, he says affirming things to her, especially the 'I'm here for more than fun' (subtext: more than chocolate baths with Alex). He is less scripted with her, or speaking more from the heart? He acts like her high school first love, which is gorgeous.

BUT, a relationship needs to be Fun too! I'm not seeing the fun stuff with Nikki that he has with Alex... I thought the Richie Alex date was heaps of Fun, even though she is throwing herself at him, she's a heart on her sleeve gal and puts her feelings ahead of most everything and everyone, and that comes off as manipulative, and it is manipulative, but i don't think she intends that consciously. IMO Alex will be F2 or let go earlier due to her boy.

Olena, is a champ and everyone loves her, because she is at least representing a modern self respecting woman who refuses to lower herself to climbing over others for affection and ego, and is protecting herself from what I am sure the producers would have worked hard to elicit from her. She's a smart girl, I'm still wondering like everyone else how interested she is in Richie. I have no doubt he's interested in her. She gives him a challenge unlike Nikki and is fun like Alex withough throwing herself at him. She also has the life he is aiming toward, apparently. Question is if he goes for the comfort of Nikki or the challenge and future with Olena.  

So, so much is edited out, that we can't say for sure, and all this is conjecture and some wishful thinking and projection! Bring on the Screen Caps please!!!

Loving reading everyones thoughts, looking forward to more sleuthing!

I get the impression sometime that it wouldn't have mattered who the guy was that Nikki would have fallen in love with him and that's sad. With her being with that guy for 12 years, I think she would have jumped at the first guy in front of her. NOT saying I'm right. It's just a feeling I get some time when she is doing the chasing and not Richie. She leads the kisses more times than not.

When I think of the difference between how Richie acts with Nikki and how Ben H did with Lauren, it's a WORLD of difference IMHO...I would have bet the farm on Ben choosing Lauren by the second episode it was that plain to me and Jo was Ben's Alex.

I also think that Richie can't believe someone like Olena would honestly be interested in him. I mean Richie isn't a looker by any means and Olena is a stunning beauty, but as they say what ever will be will be. I wish them all the best of luck.