Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

mslat92 wrote:I just see something different with Richie when he's around Olena. He's so attentive in how he listens to her and responds. The more the show progresses, the more Olena "blossoms".

I agree!

Just a quick observation from me. They left again a lot on the cutting floor with Richie and Olena during their single time. They cut out for example this...

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There was a lot more talking and kissing going on but they left it out to play the whole "Olena is closed off" story up. They hide their obvious connection from us so it won`t get too obvious and are making Nikki`s connection maybe more important than she really is. IMO

Source: my screens

I don't trust my judgement much since I tend to believe what I want to but I somehow saw that Richie was more animated when talking about Olena.
Nikki could tone down a bit for sure. It's always better when the guy does the chasing. I would feel sorry for her if she doesn't win or doesn't get the bachelorette gig.

It's also something in Richie's eyes. Idk I might be wrong, but when ever Olena says the slightest nice thing about him, he's so good and his eyes widen, as if she's just told him she loves him, plus notice how he's always he's the one thats always pulling towards her, almost leaping at her!

I don't get to watch the episode until this weekend when it's uploaded but have enjoyed reading y'all recaps.

So am I correct ithat some folks believe Richie is chasing Olena & that was apparent during the latest episode?

Also for Nikki to have declared the L word prior to HTDs as typical on the AU series IMO; is it possible that she had the confidence she was F1 at that point?

Really enjoying this & looking forward to how Richie baby works this out & makes his decision.

Nikki and Richie dancing and the girls calling him bond on the same episode makes me think about the season promo song and theme.
So even though Nikki was not featured in it, it makes me think their story was highlighted through both song and Bond theme since this episode accentuated their connection.

I guess that also showed that Olena might be F2 since she was highlighted in the same episode to give some competition to a very obvious Nikki story.

IMO.

As much as i would like for it to not mean anything, i had to throw it out there.

Natik, I agree. This reminds me so much of the latest Jojo's season. F2 declaring love before F1 and that's kinda a reason for the lead to invest more in that relationship (step forward), but ultimately longs for a confirmation and reassurance from F1. I believe Nikki goes into the finale, because if she is let go before (like Heather was), it will be too obvious (SamFro season was that obvious, but the lack of love for Michael was kinda justifying it, while I don't think it would be the same with Alex, considering her being a mom).

mercieme wrote:I don't get to watch the episode until this weekend when it's uploaded but have enjoyed reading y'all recaps.

So am I correct ithat some folks believe Richie is chasing Olena & that was apparent during the latest episode?

Also for Nikki to have declared the L word prior to HTDs as typical on the AU series IMO; is it possible that she had the confidence she was F1 at that point?

Really enjoying this & looking forward to how Richie baby works this out & makes his decision.

As far as I remember, Anna from Tim season only declared her feelings after the HTD. I might be mistaken, she had her walls up until the very end. It was fun to watch her love progressed. I am worried that Nikki is in love with Richie way back last season. That was why instead of marrying the man she was in a relationship for 12 years, she went and applied to enter Bachelor. She knew Richie will be the possible Bachelor. She was onto him from the first single date. I am just worried that with her aggressive move, if she is not F1, she will be very devastated. I really hate Richie if that happens because of leading her the way he has.

But I believe that with all the evidence posted that she is F1, I think she will be ok. But I tend to agree with those on Olena train, after last night I could see a beautiful love story if indeed Richie is in love with Olena. It's a slow progression but a good one so far what was shown last night. I think the producer is showing less of Olena 's playful nature. Last night during the cocktail party I thought I saw a bit of that character of her. Or maybe I was wrong. JMO

Just watched the episode through, tenplay had it online without any ads this morning, what a difference that made without any interruptions.

I get the impression that Nikki fell for Richie straight away, no questions, miss easy peasy lemon squeezie... the red flag for me also, if I were Richie, is where is the growth? where are the challenges? where is the Nikki that might have a crap day and not be nice and happy and all smiles. Cause lets face it, we all have that stuff, looking forward and being honest, I think I'd certainly want an idea of that at least. She seems to be leading... but his response is very positive, he's different with her, he says affirming things to her, especially the 'I'm here for more than fun' (subtext: more than chocolate baths with Alex). He is less scripted with her, or speaking more from the heart? He acts like her high school first love, which is gorgeous.

BUT, a relationship needs to be Fun too! I'm not seeing the fun stuff with Nikki that he has with Alex... I thought the Richie Alex date was heaps of Fun, even though she is throwing herself at him, she's a heart on her sleeve gal and puts her feelings ahead of most everything and everyone, and that comes off as manipulative, and it is manipulative, but i don't think she intends that consciously. IMO Alex will be F2 or let go earlier due to her boy.

Olena, is a champ and everyone loves her, because she is at least representing a modern self respecting woman who refuses to lower herself to climbing over others for affection and ego, and is protecting herself from what I am sure the producers would have worked hard to elicit from her. She's a smart girl, I'm still wondering like everyone else how interested she is in Richie. I have no doubt he's interested in her. She gives him a challenge unlike Nikki and is fun like Alex withough throwing herself at him. She also has the life he is aiming toward, apparently. Question is if he goes for the comfort of Nikki or the challenge and future with Olena.  

So, so much is edited out, that we can't say for sure, and all this is conjecture and some wishful thinking and projection! Bring on the Screen Caps please!!!

Loving reading everyones thoughts, looking forward to more sleuthing!

Oh and Kiki is awesome, how strong is she, great gal pal, love the way she looked after others and especially teary Faith at the rose ceremony, she is a real nice person.

Honestly, I thought Nikki was F1 until this episode. I'm a fan of Nikki on the show so that's sad for her since she appears to be invested already. I hope she will get to be the Bachelorette even if she doesn't win. The reason I think she's not the F1 is because when she was saying all those nice things, Richie had an unreadable expression on his face. But when Olena was complimenting him, his face just lit up. And he kept referring to him and Olena as "us" and their "relationship". I haven't seen that with Nikki. Nikki is also doing most of the chasing now and you know how guys like to be the one doing the chasing.

H.E.A.T.H.E.R wrote:Oh and Kiki is awesome, how strong is she, great gal pal, love the way she looked after others and especially teary Faith at the rose ceremony, she is a real nice person.

She is amazing isn't she. A pleasant surprise. Strong, confident and compassionate. Compared to Kiera she has more class in her little finger than the whole of Kiera

I am really enjoying all the girls this season..they all have something different but all seem to get along quite well (under the circumstances) I think Richie is a lucky guy and will be very happy with whoever he chooses ! So tonight is faiths date sooooo looking forward to that! Then next week is that camping date and then following week htd? So we will run out of faith and Nikki sc after next week right??hmmmmm