Bachelor In Paradise - Season 3 - All Episodes - Discussions - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

Ah right I forgot this is the same woman who tried to sabotage Lauren B's relationship with Ben and then lied to her face about it. Of course she has no problem throwing Caila under the bus and relates to Ashley I.

Amethyst wrote:It was interesting to hear Ashley's take on Josh. She likes him -- said that he lights up a room when he walks in. It showed another side to him. For Amanda's sake, I hope that Josh is more nuanced than he seems on BiP.

IMO the biggest narcissist usually are very charismatic people. I'm so hung up on that short scene when he questioned Amanda on how she could still like Evan. That's just too huge IMO. And AshleyI's world view is pretty messy, too.

truelovealways wrote:Jen and Nick are the only couple I care about this season and they are living up to my expectations they are so cute together

Oh my goodness they are the cutest! I just finished watching and they can't stop grinning around each other it is adorable. They are definitely my favorite couple to watch this season. They seem like a great fit, not to mention they make a stunning couple! wowzers!

Kashathediva wrote:I think Daniel should replace Chris Manson.

or at the very least Sean for this season on After Paradise.

AshleyI needs a medical intervention and a long stay in a psych ward. Besides being delusional and mean she is such a phony victim. Ashley's foul obscene name calling of Caila should have had her tossed out of Paradise...just like Chad.

Jared also needs medical intervention to sprout a pair of testicles. Being too nice or stroking his ego with Ashley's obsession....either way it is messed up.

Caila did nothing wrong. She in no way deserves the vitriol that has been thrown on her. It is a sad commentary that being nice and desirable is equated with being fake. IMO Caila is beautifully sincere and genuinely kind. She is too good for this Franchise and Jared. I hope she moves on from both of them.
JMO

Seabear wrote:AshleyI needs a medical intervention and a long stay in a psych ward. Besides being delusional and mean she is such a phony victim. Ashley's foul obscene name calling of Caila should have had her tossed out of Paradise...just like Chad.

Funny how AshleyI can call Caila a wh**e with no consequences. Imagine any man calling a woman a wh**e, they'd get thrown out.

It's disgusting that there were no repercussions for AshleyI. She really is just a mean girl.

I was prepared to be disappointed by this episode, but to see the way AshleyI behaved was next level. Caila was essentially manipulated by an obsessed girl who wanted to make sure Caila would never meet the guy she's infatuated with. And all because AshleyI knew Jared would like Caila. The fact that people could even see Ashley as a victim in that scenario is truly disturbing.

I agree @Seabear that the vitriol thrown at Caila is so undeserved. AshleyI can call someone a wh*re and be applauded, and Caila goes on a date because she liked Jared when she met him, and she gets attacked? What a messed up world. I hope Caila leaves all of this drama behind her. It isn't worth her time. All JMO.

Seems Jared is just incapable of hurting anyone. I only watched part of the first hour; too busy with RL. And that is from a devoted Bach/ette fan. The whole season is a train wreck. However, TPTB must think it attracts viewers, thus advertisers, etc. JMO.

Ashley I seriously has issues to deal with ... and people applauding her are only augmenting her delusional state that that's an acceptable behaviour. It's not!
It's immature, disrespectful, ignorant or plain stupid, arrogant/snobbish and nothing better than Chad for the same matter ...

and TPTB are shameless capitalist of disgrace.

Enough from me on things that I don't want to focus on, because TPTB don't deserve the consideration after all they present and place on market things that I hope people would question more "before buying" ... but for that, there needs to be an education first. Sadly the numbers show the lack of it.

The refreshing lack of Josh this episode was unfortunately compensated by an abundance of Ashley I. You win some, you lose some.

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sosleepy wrote:How old is Ashley I.? Wasn't she like 26 on Chris' season? Doesn't that make her about 28-ish now? Good Lord in Heaven. She is the most freaking immature nearly 30-something I've ever seen. Literally. Like she literally seems stunted around the age of 13. Honestly. I'd like to think some of it's an act and she's playing it up, but I just don't think so. What the heck happened to her to make her so stunted around your average 7th grade mentality? Poor girl. Get therapy.

Her bio tonight labeled her as 28.
I agree she is stuck in middle school. I think some of it is acting and played up for her character on the show. However, it think the underlying her is what we see and get. How did she get that way? I am thinking after seeing the segment with her father, that his uprearing and feelings toward her was/is a huge part. JMOAA

What is the segment with her father? Was it on After Paradise? If so, I missed it. I can't watch this crap without CH at the helm. It doesn't seem right or natural. I am curious about Ashley's dad dynamic. Something somewhere screwed her up BAD. Her sister seems equally deranged, but in a different kind of way. Same "trauma," different way it manifested?

On After Paradise, they showed a short blip of Ashely's dad and what he thought about Ashley. He said the kind of things expected by a dad regarding their daughter only he had no acknowledgement of any of the crazy, crying, childish behavior. It's like he was totally unaware. Wondering if the editing was funny and the audience didn't get to see part of it. Like maybe dad was not asked about that stuff. IDK. But he seemed in deep denial regarding his daughter's behavior.

I'm just so sick of Ashley. I don't find her insanity and constant crying entertaining in the least anymore. Even if she and Jared had something romantic at some point during the winter, she herself said they'd been just friends for the 5 months leading up to Paradise. If a guy tries to have a relationship with you and still decides he'd rather go back to being friends, then he's just not that into you. How can she not see that? Does she really think that by keeping Jared away from every woman he might like, he'll one day think "I guess there's no one in this world for me, so I might as well settle and date Ashley"? That is just so messed up. Does she not want to be loved the same way she "loves" Jared? I loved Nick telling her that it's not love, because it isn't. She's just like a toddler who wants a certain toy and throws hissy fits when her parents say no. If you really love someone then you want them to be happy, even if it's with someone else. Hell, even Emily showed more love for Jared while he was breaking it off with her. Ashley is truly missing something important. She must have been spoiled all her life by her delusional father and now can't handle the fact that she can't always get what she wants. Guess what Ashley, other people have needs and wants too, and yours aren't any more important than theirs. Shocker, I know.