Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
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Re: Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Love_is_Eternal wrote:primexi wrote:mikhel recently liked this pic of him and jasmine kissing
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNAScTIAaGr/?tagged=bacheloretteca
Thanks, @primexi. Why would he do that if he isn't F1? Wonder if it is part of Bach(ette) contract that contestants use social media to misdirect? Or do they have a minder who "helps" them?
Call me cynical, but I wonder if contestants have any control over their SM at all during the airing of the show. IMO either production appoints a "personal assistant" to oversee what gets posted and when, or at the very least are constantly monitoring to veto anything that might upset the apple cart. There have been several examples of Instagram photos being deleted, re-uploaded, captions changed, Tweets being sent and then deleted... it's definitely not "normal" social media behaviour IMO.
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Re: Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Bobette wrote:Love_is_Eternal wrote:primexi wrote:mikhel recently liked this pic of him and jasmine kissing
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNAScTIAaGr/?tagged=bacheloretteca
Thanks, @primexi. Why would he do that if he isn't F1? Wonder if it is part of Bach(ette) contract that contestants use social media to misdirect? Or do they have a minder who "helps" them?
Call me cynical, but I wonder if contestants have any control over their SM at all during the airing of the show. IMO either production appoints a "personal assistant" to oversee what gets posted and when, or at the very least are constantly monitoring to veto anything that might upset the apple cart. There have been several examples of Instagram photos being deleted, re-uploaded, captions changed, Tweets being sent and then deleted... it's definitely not "normal" social media behaviour IMO.
Almost every IG picture that Kevin W posts is tagged bacheloretteca. Make of it what you will.
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Re: Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Remember "snapchat gate" on US kaitlyn! SM has come so far in the tech world that you don't have to hire a "personal assistant" to tweet, FB, IG there is software that does it for you
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Have you noticed that both the producers are following all the guys. And I imagine there is a Sm person that monitors it to ensure they arent giving anything away. They just put the AU contestants on lock down now which is even more odd
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Re: Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
The more this week draws out the more I'm excited Mikhel might be the next bachelor - he's starting to grow on me as a potential next bach. we already know that mikhel himself is very self-aware and reflective and finding out how close he is with kevin p who also seems to be quite the contemplative guy.. Reflective + communicative + an interesting/intelligent/deep lead is always compelling for me. I enjoyed Ben H, Sean, Ashley H, Georgia Love, Jasmine and coming soon I'm sure I'll enjoy...Nick's season as well. Mikhel I think would make that kind of lead and I think that will make a great show.
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I want me some Mikhel as lead.
How awesome that could be. With different genre of women and everything.
How awesome that could be. With different genre of women and everything.
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Yea it'd be great!! I hope he's next bach!
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Re: Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Just sharing what i have picked up regarding media stuff that i found as key findings and interesting. FWIW. Would love y'all thought
Mikhel as the F1- Media Analysis (All JMHOAA)
Laying out some stuff regarding the Production’s Media on IG and Facebook. I strictly limited my analysis to what have been released in the media and excluding both F2’s SMs activities. I basically just played finding similarities and differences, pay attention to mostly any "pattern" and the detail of the wording.
1.W NETWORK IG https://www.instagram.com/w_network/
- I can't shake the total opposite wording by production, for Mikhel's dad and Kevin W's mom on HTD . (note that only these 2 parents being highlighted, with no Mike's dad featured at all.> implying head to head perhaps?)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUwyMZBH-o/?taken-by=w_network
Mikhel's father Tim deserved a rose on last night's hometown date!#BacheloretteCA . > IMO very "rosy"....
Compare that to:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMWN4JChg5s/?taken-by=w_network
Kevin W.'s mother - future monster in law? Or protective mother?#BacheloretteCA > don't y'all think the "monster" word is a bit too harsh for their first ever F1's mom?
Still on HTD note...interestingly, only Mikhel was shown professing his love....NO Kevin featured on his HTD, despite BOTH guys have shown professing their loves on their respective HTDs.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUxOOHhfop/?taken-by=w_network
w_networkMikhel's power move: straddling his bike backwards and professing his love. #BacheloretteCA
2.GHP's IG https://www.instagram.com/goodhumanprods/
2.1. "Lonesome" IG
I have been observing this media quite sometime when i sleuthed Mike. Pay attention that NO Mikhel was shown alone on this media spread .Note that KW got 2 the lonesome IGs :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLLDJ6LhdIc/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
goodhumanprods@kevin.c.wendt owning it like Riggins. @bacheloretteca#bachelorette #bacheloretteca@goodhumanprods @w_network
https://www.instagram.com/p/BL-S1eQhULq/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
goodhumanprodsWhat will Kevin do this week? @bacheloretteca @w_network#bachelorette #bacheloretteca #morocco#redemption
(for the sake of comparison, Drew got 4 of him featured alone)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLNWWSth8Cv/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLLCymyB2E4/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLpSmFahhEq/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKoHVzWBOvZ/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
>I interpret it as : Mikhel is already off the market, while Kevin and the rest of the featured alone guys : Drew, Kyle and David are still singles (and ready to mingle...hence need to be highlighted being a lonesome ).
2.2. Promo for Finale. Check these out :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BM7o06dB5Rf/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
Not a bad situation to find yourself in... @bacheloretteca@w_network #bachelorette#bacheloretteca #bigstakes #love #cuba
https://www.instagram.com/p/BM7o06dB5Rf/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
goodhumanprodsThe finale is coming so fast... Jasmine is one lucky girl.@bacheloretteca @w_network#bachelorette #bacheloretteca
>IMO The hashtag game is on point for Mikhel with the Big Stake and Love words and the pic also give an impression of more intimate than the one of Kevin's.
3.BacheloretteCA IG https://www.instagram.com/bacheloretteca/
3.1. Still on the lonely note ...the same pattern was found with above GHP's IG...NO Mikhel was shown alone, while KW got one of such IG:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLwWxGEA8OJ/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bachelorettecaAs time goes on Kevin W. is finding it harder and harder to cope with the process. Is #CaptainCanada's jealousy a red flag? #BacheloretteCA > to me, the red flag wording is interesting
3.2. Out of Jasmine’s F3, only Mikhel was shown at MnG with interesting hashtag. (no KW nor Mike, for that matter)>SPARK
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKbmP_cAgJv/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
[font=Verdana]bachelorettecaDon’t let rain get in your way - Cozy up to your date to keep warm and ignite that spark.#BacheloretteCA
3.3. On the Episode 7 topic, Mikhel got 2 mentions on this IG despite not having any SD, while Kevin with his second SD only got 1 mention . Mikhel's on the merely alone time were shown in 2 IGs, comprising details of their relationship progression and interactions while Kevin's only featured in a very general wording for that week promo. Super Duper Interesting to me!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BL_7uMnAT4E/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bachelorettecaWith only 5 men remaining, the relationships are getting more and more serious. Tune in for more Moroccan love TONIGHT 9PM ET/PT@w_network!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMHjzzmgPFz/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bacheloretteca"A future with you is worthwhile to me." - Mikhel's giving US butterflies with all the right things he has to say > FUTURE
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMAkJ3KgQl1/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bacheloretteca"I am falling for you HARD. And I'll figure it out on my end, if you figure it out on your end."#BacheloretteCA >FALLING HARD
3.4. On HTD note, again, Mikhel got more mentions, in 2 IGs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMSeRG-gzss/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMR1yijg22X/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
compare to only 1 for Kevin :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMSkIV5AbHY/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
3.5. Still on the HTD note, observe the wording of these two IG vids of mama Mik and mama Kev. (very opposite IMO, just as the aforementioned mama Kev VS papa Mik on the above W Network IGs)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMSmOlJgZ6_/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bacheloretteca"When you cry, I cry" Kevin's mom sure is feeling the stress of this entire process! #BacheloretteCA
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMS0p_cgxs5/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bacheloretteca Words of wisdom from#MamaMik! A mother always knows best.#BacheloretteCA
4. W NETWORK WEBSITE
4.1.Comparing both journeys :
http://www.wnetwork.com/living/roundup-mikhel-jasmines-journey
http://www.wnetwork.com/living/roundup-kevin-w-jasmines-journey
IMO the story narration is more bolded and clear for Mikhel...showing their relationship progression and important benchmarks of their journey, while for Kevin its more ambiguous. One thing stood out to me is the HTD narration. This is super important benchmark for both guys since both have professed their love to Jas. Let's see :
- Mikhel's : 14/15. On his hometown date, Mikhel takes a leap of faith and tells Jasmine that he loves her> " leap of faith" = key word
- Kevin's :12/15 .On his hometown date, Kevin took Jasmine to his University football stadium. > No mention of him professing his love, despite it was shown on the main episode.
4.2. http://www.wnetwork.com/living/behind-scenes-intimate-fantasy-date-moments
Note that Mikhel has 8 pics with more intimate illustration with Jasmine, showing 2 side shots of kissing, compared to only 6 pics of Kevin with no kissing from side shot, only 1 back shot. IMO it also provides clearer narration for Mikhel compared to Kevin.
5. FACEBOOK
https://www.facebook.com/BacheloretteCA/?ref=br_rs
5.1. Mikhel’s journey was up first. (assuming Kevin's will be put up later)
As we head into the dramatic Finale, we're looking back at Mikhel and Jasmine's journey together. #BacheloretteCA
> Should be interesting to see if Jasmine’s season follow GL’s route where Lee ‘s journey was also up first. TWT soon.
5.2. Promo for Finale. the same wording and same pic as the ones in BachCA IGs (https://www.instagram.com/p/BNAScTIAaGr/?taken-by=bacheloretteca and https://www.instagram.com/p/BNDSTvsAiUR/?taken-by=bacheloretteca )
The Bachelorette Canada·
THREE. DAYS. We can't believe Jasmine's journey for love is finally coming to an end. Which happy couple do you think will make it? #BacheloretteCA > this pic was posted first as well. IMO the Happy Couple wording is quite revealing...No?
compare to this one of Kevin's posted later on:
The Bachelorette Canada
We are so excited. And nervous. And ecstatic. But still really nervous. Don't miss the #BacheloretteCAFINALE + #AfterTheFinalRose TUESDAY!
> IMO The wording is quite general, not referring to any of the cheesy words : couple, journey, love . Note also that they use the pic from Kevin's HTD,as opposed to Mikhel's previous pic being from FD stage.
>>My conclusion : All of these nuggets are more in favor of Mikhel as F1, IMO. and no...i dont think its for his set up for next Bachie, since i think its Mike's gig to loose. The way i see it: its a 'normal' attempt for a newbie show to promote their final couple so the fans will get invested more in the final couple and the show...allowing them to renew the show for subsequent seasons. Not the first, since i know Matilda-Art and Sasha-Sam also being featured well on the production's media and definitely not the last. JMO. TWT.
Mikhel as the F1- Media Analysis (All JMHOAA)
Laying out some stuff regarding the Production’s Media on IG and Facebook. I strictly limited my analysis to what have been released in the media and excluding both F2’s SMs activities. I basically just played finding similarities and differences, pay attention to mostly any "pattern" and the detail of the wording.
1.W NETWORK IG https://www.instagram.com/w_network/
- I can't shake the total opposite wording by production, for Mikhel's dad and Kevin W's mom on HTD . (note that only these 2 parents being highlighted, with no Mike's dad featured at all.> implying head to head perhaps?)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUwyMZBH-o/?taken-by=w_network
Mikhel's father Tim deserved a rose on last night's hometown date!#BacheloretteCA . > IMO very "rosy"....
Compare that to:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMWN4JChg5s/?taken-by=w_network
Kevin W.'s mother - future monster in law? Or protective mother?#BacheloretteCA > don't y'all think the "monster" word is a bit too harsh for their first ever F1's mom?
Still on HTD note...interestingly, only Mikhel was shown professing his love....NO Kevin featured on his HTD, despite BOTH guys have shown professing their loves on their respective HTDs.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUxOOHhfop/?taken-by=w_network
w_networkMikhel's power move: straddling his bike backwards and professing his love. #BacheloretteCA
2.GHP's IG https://www.instagram.com/goodhumanprods/
2.1. "Lonesome" IG
I have been observing this media quite sometime when i sleuthed Mike. Pay attention that NO Mikhel was shown alone on this media spread .Note that KW got 2 the lonesome IGs :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLLDJ6LhdIc/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
goodhumanprods@kevin.c.wendt owning it like Riggins. @bacheloretteca#bachelorette #bacheloretteca@goodhumanprods @w_network
https://www.instagram.com/p/BL-S1eQhULq/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
goodhumanprodsWhat will Kevin do this week? @bacheloretteca @w_network#bachelorette #bacheloretteca #morocco#redemption
(for the sake of comparison, Drew got 4 of him featured alone)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLNWWSth8Cv/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLLCymyB2E4/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLpSmFahhEq/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKoHVzWBOvZ/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
>I interpret it as : Mikhel is already off the market, while Kevin and the rest of the featured alone guys : Drew, Kyle and David are still singles (and ready to mingle...hence need to be highlighted being a lonesome ).
2.2. Promo for Finale. Check these out :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BM7o06dB5Rf/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
Not a bad situation to find yourself in... @bacheloretteca@w_network #bachelorette#bacheloretteca #bigstakes #love #cuba
https://www.instagram.com/p/BM7o06dB5Rf/?taken-by=goodhumanprods
goodhumanprodsThe finale is coming so fast... Jasmine is one lucky girl.@bacheloretteca @w_network#bachelorette #bacheloretteca
>IMO The hashtag game is on point for Mikhel with the Big Stake and Love words and the pic also give an impression of more intimate than the one of Kevin's.
3.BacheloretteCA IG https://www.instagram.com/bacheloretteca/
3.1. Still on the lonely note ...the same pattern was found with above GHP's IG...NO Mikhel was shown alone, while KW got one of such IG:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLwWxGEA8OJ/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bachelorettecaAs time goes on Kevin W. is finding it harder and harder to cope with the process. Is #CaptainCanada's jealousy a red flag? #BacheloretteCA > to me, the red flag wording is interesting
3.2. Out of Jasmine’s F3, only Mikhel was shown at MnG with interesting hashtag. (no KW nor Mike, for that matter)>SPARK
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKbmP_cAgJv/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
[font=Verdana]bachelorettecaDon’t let rain get in your way - Cozy up to your date to keep warm and ignite that spark.#BacheloretteCA
3.3. On the Episode 7 topic, Mikhel got 2 mentions on this IG despite not having any SD, while Kevin with his second SD only got 1 mention . Mikhel's on the merely alone time were shown in 2 IGs, comprising details of their relationship progression and interactions while Kevin's only featured in a very general wording for that week promo. Super Duper Interesting to me!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BL_7uMnAT4E/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bachelorettecaWith only 5 men remaining, the relationships are getting more and more serious. Tune in for more Moroccan love TONIGHT 9PM ET/PT@w_network!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMHjzzmgPFz/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bacheloretteca"A future with you is worthwhile to me." - Mikhel's giving US butterflies with all the right things he has to say > FUTURE
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMAkJ3KgQl1/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bacheloretteca"I am falling for you HARD. And I'll figure it out on my end, if you figure it out on your end."#BacheloretteCA >FALLING HARD
3.4. On HTD note, again, Mikhel got more mentions, in 2 IGs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMSeRG-gzss/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMR1yijg22X/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
compare to only 1 for Kevin :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMSkIV5AbHY/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
3.5. Still on the HTD note, observe the wording of these two IG vids of mama Mik and mama Kev. (very opposite IMO, just as the aforementioned mama Kev VS papa Mik on the above W Network IGs)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMSmOlJgZ6_/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bacheloretteca"When you cry, I cry" Kevin's mom sure is feeling the stress of this entire process! #BacheloretteCA
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMS0p_cgxs5/?taken-by=bacheloretteca
bacheloretteca Words of wisdom from#MamaMik! A mother always knows best.#BacheloretteCA
4. W NETWORK WEBSITE
4.1.Comparing both journeys :
http://www.wnetwork.com/living/roundup-mikhel-jasmines-journey
http://www.wnetwork.com/living/roundup-kevin-w-jasmines-journey
IMO the story narration is more bolded and clear for Mikhel...showing their relationship progression and important benchmarks of their journey, while for Kevin its more ambiguous. One thing stood out to me is the HTD narration. This is super important benchmark for both guys since both have professed their love to Jas. Let's see :
- Mikhel's : 14/15. On his hometown date, Mikhel takes a leap of faith and tells Jasmine that he loves her> " leap of faith" = key word
- Kevin's :12/15 .On his hometown date, Kevin took Jasmine to his University football stadium. > No mention of him professing his love, despite it was shown on the main episode.
4.2. http://www.wnetwork.com/living/behind-scenes-intimate-fantasy-date-moments
Note that Mikhel has 8 pics with more intimate illustration with Jasmine, showing 2 side shots of kissing, compared to only 6 pics of Kevin with no kissing from side shot, only 1 back shot. IMO it also provides clearer narration for Mikhel compared to Kevin.
5. FACEBOOK
https://www.facebook.com/BacheloretteCA/?ref=br_rs
5.1. Mikhel’s journey was up first. (assuming Kevin's will be put up later)
As we head into the dramatic Finale, we're looking back at Mikhel and Jasmine's journey together. #BacheloretteCA
> Should be interesting to see if Jasmine’s season follow GL’s route where Lee ‘s journey was also up first. TWT soon.
5.2. Promo for Finale. the same wording and same pic as the ones in BachCA IGs (https://www.instagram.com/p/BNAScTIAaGr/?taken-by=bacheloretteca and https://www.instagram.com/p/BNDSTvsAiUR/?taken-by=bacheloretteca )
The Bachelorette Canada·
THREE. DAYS. We can't believe Jasmine's journey for love is finally coming to an end. Which happy couple do you think will make it? #BacheloretteCA > this pic was posted first as well. IMO the Happy Couple wording is quite revealing...No?
compare to this one of Kevin's posted later on:
The Bachelorette Canada
We are so excited. And nervous. And ecstatic. But still really nervous. Don't miss the #BacheloretteCAFINALE + #AfterTheFinalRose TUESDAY!
> IMO The wording is quite general, not referring to any of the cheesy words : couple, journey, love . Note also that they use the pic from Kevin's HTD,as opposed to Mikhel's previous pic being from FD stage.
>>My conclusion : All of these nuggets are more in favor of Mikhel as F1, IMO. and no...i dont think its for his set up for next Bachie, since i think its Mike's gig to loose. The way i see it: its a 'normal' attempt for a newbie show to promote their final couple so the fans will get invested more in the final couple and the show...allowing them to renew the show for subsequent seasons. Not the first, since i know Matilda-Art and Sasha-Sam also being featured well on the production's media and definitely not the last. JMO. TWT.
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Re: Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
You've just put up all the reasons why we were saying yesterday that if Mikhel is not F1, they have been pushing him too hard.
And if he is F1, I can understand why because the onscreen chemistry with KW seemed more intense up until now.
I don't know what to think anymore regarding obvious F1 vs Misdirection.
Oh and very well done. You amaze me everytime!
And if he is F1, I can understand why because the onscreen chemistry with KW seemed more intense up until now.
I don't know what to think anymore regarding obvious F1 vs Misdirection.
Oh and very well done. You amaze me everytime!
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ahhh...thanks! means a lot!djogbenyuie wrote:You've just put up all the reasons why we were saying yesterday that if Mikhel is not F1, they have been pushing him too hard.
And if he is F1, I can understand why because the onscreen chemistry with KW seemed more intense up until now.
I don't know what to think anymore regarding obvious F1 vs Misdirection.
Oh and very well done. You amaze me everytime!
just wish me to be able to keep my sane mind to pull my last puzzle through. it is full of PIs that drove me cray2 already....
Only 1 day-ish to go : i feel like Kiefer Sutherland in the "24" Series . Wish me luck!
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Only 1 day-ish to go : i feel like Kiefer Sutherland in the "24" Series?! Joy15.
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djogbenyuie wrote:You've just put up all the reasons why we were saying yesterday that if Mikhel is not F1, they have been pushing him too hard.
And if he is F1, I can understand why because the onscreen chemistry with KW seemed more intense up until now.
I don't know what to think anymore regarding obvious F1 vs Misdirection.
Oh and very well done. You amaze me everytime!
Whether it's misdirection or not one must question why Kevin has been portrayed as rather unlikeable in comparison in their social media campaign and on screen. You could say it's because Mikhel may be tipped for bachelor but an incredibly risky move considering we saw it with Richie's season and the incredible slump in ratings for the bachelorette and the backlash that ensued. If Jasmine does pick Kevin they both better grow an incredibly thick skin and brace themselves for the ride that is going to follow. And considering Kevin's following of Roz Weston and then unfollowing because of what he said on the After Show and the whole ticking time bomb tweet, says to me, he may not handle it too well.
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