The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 9 - July 25th - FS - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

northernviewer wrote:I long ago decided to hate the game not the players...especially the leads.  Theyre all obligated to play along..whether theyre feeling it or not, if they didnt most seasons wouldnt get past episode 5!  What gets me is all the contestants who want special treatment .....(Please dont lead me on" ...."let me go once you know your not feeling it" ....it just not possible folks!  Its the nature of the beast...if you dont want to be led on....dont go on the show!  It is what is .... Hearts are involved and feelings get hurt but thats the premise of the show.  24 of the 25 are going home disappointed or heartbroken.  

Sable wrote:

mercieme wrote:IA she should have sent Robby home like Andi did to her F2 before the FRC but I guess the producers didn't give her that option.

Yikes for a season that was signed, sealed & delivered before it started, the producers sure made a mess of things

Bolding by me...

I've only been loosely following the show.  I'll have it on in the background while I am doing other things and only watch bits and pieces of it.  This season reminds me so much of Andi's.  In the same way that Josh was the chosen F1 before the season even began, I feel the same is true for Jojo's season with Jordan.  Nothing against the leads or their F1's (I seriously really like most of them), but as a viewer, it isn't even enjoyable for me to watch when basically from night 1 you know who the F1 is without reading the spoilers or doing some major sluething.  I didn't read the spoilers until after the first couple of episodes, and I was very confident that Jordan was the F1 after the first episode.  I then sought out the spoilers, and I was right.  Then I read that they were maybe communicating even before the show, and, IMO, it really makes me feel for the other contestants.  It just isn't fair and it's not an even playing field.  If they knew they were interested in each other, then they should have dated IRL and declined from appearing on the show.  I know the lead can only pick one F1, but when the winner is preordained, it makes it a waste of time for the other contestants and the viewers, IMO.  That's just my opinion.  I just wish they wouldn't have any more famous/semi-famous/people with famous siblings/etc. on this show.  I feel in a season like that (Matt Grant - he picked Shayne Lamas, Andi, Jojo), it's always the "famous" person who wins.

Longhornfan wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I long ago decided to hate the game not the players...especially the leads.  Theyre all obligated to play along..whether theyre feeling it or not, if they didnt most seasons wouldnt get past episode 5!  What gets me is all the contestants who want special treatment .....(Please dont lead me on" ...."let me go once you know your not feeling it" ....it just not possible folks!  Its the nature of the beast...if you dont want to be led on....dont go on the show!  It is what is .... Hearts are involved and feelings get hurt but thats the premise of the show.  24 of the 25 are going home disappointed or heartbroken.  

That is a great way to look at this crazy show.  I, for whatever reason, just don't get that deeply attached to any of these people on this show.  Even though I definitely do like JoJo and think that she is a really kind-hearted person in real life, I have never been in her shoes before (and wouldn't want to be), and I don't know yet exactly how that all unfolded.  So, I think that I will hold judgment until I see for myself what might have happened to cause her to make that decision.  

But, in all of the interviews that I have seen with him since the show wrapped up and began airing, Chase has had nothing but wonderful things to say about JoJo post show.  Plus, he appears to be quite happy now, so it will be interesting to see what he had to say to JoJo at the MTA about the FS, and I am anxious to hear her explanation.

JoJo herself has admitted that she made some mistakes along the way.  I can't think of a single lead, male or female, who hasn't done things that they later regretted.  Was this one of those occasions?  Maybe.  But, I feel pretty certain that Chase will address this with JoJo at the MTA, especially if he was still bothered by it, as RS has suggested.

Sable wrote:

mercieme wrote:IA she should have sent Robby home like Andi did to her F2 before the FRC but I guess the producers didn't give her that option.

Yikes for a season that was signed, sealed & delivered before it started, the producers sure made a mess of things

Bolding by me...

I've only been loosely following the show.  I'll have it on in the background while I am doing other things and only watch bits and pieces of it.  This season reminds me so much of Andi's.  In the same way that Josh was the chosen F1 before the season even began, I feel the same is true for Jojo's season with Jordan.  Nothing against the leads or their F1's (I seriously really like most of them), but as a viewer, it isn't even enjoyable for me to watch when basically from night 1 you know who the F1 is without reading the spoilers or doing some major sluething.  I didn't read the spoilers until after the first couple of episodes, and I was very confident that Jordan was the F1 after the first episode.  I then sought out the spoilers, and I was right.  Then I read that they were maybe communicating even before the show, and, IMO, it really makes me feel for the other contestants.  It just isn't fair and it's not an even playing field.  If they knew they were interested in each other, then they should have dated IRL and declined from appearing on the show.  I know the lead can only pick one F1, but when the winner is preordained, it makes it a waste of time for the other contestants and the viewers, IMO.  That's just my opinion.  I just wish they wouldn't have any more famous/semi-famous/people with famous siblings/etc. on this show.  I feel in a season like that (Matt Grant - he picked Shayne Lamas, Andi, Jojo), it's always the "famous" person who wins.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:If Jordan was f1 from day 1/prior to the show or not, it's obvious she's crazy in love with him. She acts completely different with him than with anyone else. People say she's such a terrible actress...well, she's definitely not acting with him. IMO.

Seabear wrote:Luke got lucky on the tearjerker F4 left on the tarmac elimination....Bachelor clincher exit. Poor Chase what a burn... jilted in the FS...is a blow to his manhood and ego. I bet he will be peeved she accepted the FS card and then kicked him to the curb...when he gives his thoughts at the MTA.
Robby doesn't stand a chance....It has always been about picking Aaron Rodgers brother. JorJo for the win.
JMO

KB_Mom wrote:Maybe Robby slips and calls JoJo "Hope" in the FS, and that's the "what you did to me wasn't right" line from previews

mercieme wrote:I have to when I hear that folks fall in love on this show when we know what the franchise stats are. I can only hope that bubble love is what folks are referring to.

As even past leads have said, real love starts after the coupe have overcome the adversity that will surely come their way post show & their 15 mins of fame being shown on weekly TV is over.