The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 9 - July 25th - FS - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

I mean, heck, did y'all HEAR the video that RS posted in his reader Emails this week of Robby and James at a viewing party on Monday? James said that dating websites weren't real versions of people. And that JoJo was actually the real version of someone. Smart, funny, Christian, caring, blah blah blah..to whatever else he said. He was going on and on and was obvi drunk. But he's said similar stuff before, as have the a lot of the dudes this season.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

2observe wrote:

grace8136 wrote:Maybe Chase told her something about Jordan. It doesn't seem like anything else upsets her much. He could have said it badly like.. You're a fool if you don't see that Jordan....

I think that Chase was too honest about Jojo and she got mad that he called her out. jmo.

I doubt it. He doesn't seem like the type to show major disrespect towards a woman. And even then, he's had nothing but positive things to say about her post show. Saying she's smart, witty, gorgeous, and emotionally present. IMO.

I don't think that being honest is being disrespectful. But that's just my opinion. I just think that Chase may have been honest about his experience with Jojo, and it hit home and she didn't like it. Sometimes truth hurts. Again, jmo.

2observe wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

2observe wrote:
I think that Chase was too honest about Jojo and she got mad that he called her out. jmo.

I doubt it. He doesn't seem like the type to show major disrespect towards a woman. And even then, he's had nothing but positive things to say about her post show. Saying she's smart, witty, gorgeous, and emotionally present. IMO.

I don't think that being honest is being disrespectful. But that's just my opinion.  I just think that Chase may have been honest about his experience with Jojo, and it hit home and she didn't like it.  Sometimes truth hurts.  Again, jmo.

True, but I still don't believe that's what went down. IMO. I think what CJ and GA said is more likely. IMO.

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

2observe wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:
I doubt it. He doesn't seem like the type to show major disrespect towards a woman. And even then, he's had nothing but positive things to say about her post show. Saying she's smart, witty, gorgeous, and emotionally present. IMO.

I don't think that being honest is being disrespectful. But that's just my opinion.  I just think that Chase may have been honest about his experience with Jojo, and it hit home and she didn't like it.  Sometimes truth hurts.  Again, jmo.

True, but I still don't believe that's what went down. IMO. I think what CJ and GA said is more likely. IMO.

Ladybug82 wrote:Hopefully, production and her handlers were really doing numbers on her with the mind games and doubt and she's not quite that needy and OTT in real life.  

JMO

But she is that OTT and THAT needy, isn't this the same girl on the bathroom floor asking the lead to tell her she is the  one

lexforlife wrote:

Ladybug82 wrote:Hopefully, production and her handlers were really doing numbers on her with the mind games and doubt and she's not quite that needy and OTT in real life.  

JMO

But she is that OTT and THAT needy, isn't this the same girl on the bathroom floor asking the lead to tell her she is the  one

I mean, I don't think she wakes up her Baddy in the middle of the night, drags him into the bathroom to sit on the tile and starts begging for reassurance I think if she's happy and secure in her relationship, with lots of attention and affection to satisfy whatever threshold she personally has, all the crazy neediness is imperceptible and not constant/crazy/ott.

Lex!  

Yes, same girl!  But I mean in real life, away from the cameras, just them where they each know where they stand and what they want.  Maybe then she'll be a little more calm and cool.  

Who am I kidding?  BBJ is gonna have his hands full, but I think he enjoys seeing her get all riled up and helping smooth out her feathers. I think if they truly want to make it work and it's not all for show and advancement of careers, then they have a shot at it.  She's gonna continue to make him work for it and he'll have to continually spew words of affirmation, and work to calm, soothe and reel her back in some.

JMO

Ladybug82 wrote: Lex!  

Yes, same girl!  But I mean in real life, away from the cameras, just them where they each know where they stand and what they want.  Maybe then she'll be a little more calm and cool.  

Who am I kidding?  BBJ is gonna have his hands full, but I think he enjoys seeing her get all riled up and helping smooth out her feathers. I think if they truly want to make it work and it's not all for show and advancement of careers, then they have a shot at it.  She's gonna continue to make him work for it and he'll have to continually spew words of affirmation, and work to calm, soothe and reel her back in some.

JMO

Hey Lady

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:^ Irregardless, I really don't get the vibe that JoJo is a cold heartless biotch. She obviously cared for the guys, for however long she spent time with them/got to know them/etc. Yes, she was doing her job, like every other lead..but she still cared about the situation. She didn't treat anyone like the gum beneath her stilettos.

IMO.

though some have treated the contestsnts like crap. Jojo certainly has not. she has been impressive in that regard. and imo has given them a chance while doing right by her.


the heart wants what it wants.
Jmo.

nd4reality wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:^ Irregardless, I really don't get the vibe that JoJo is a cold heartless biotch. She obviously cared for the guys, for however long she spent time with them/got to know them/etc. Yes, she was doing her job, like every other lead..but she still cared about the situation. She didn't treat anyone like the gum beneath her stilettos.

IMO.

though some have treated the contestsnts like crap. Jojo certainly has not. she has been impressive in that regard. and imo has given them a chance while doing right by her.


the heart wants what it wants.
Jmo.

yes to both quotes...

Ladybug82 wrote: Lex!  

Yes, same girl!  But I mean in real life, away from the cameras, just them where they each know where they stand and what they want.  Maybe then she'll be a little more calm and cool.  

Who am I kidding?  BBJ is gonna have his hands full, but I think he enjoys seeing her get all riled up and helping smooth out her feathers. I think if they truly want to make it work and it's not all for show and advancement of careers, then they have a shot at it.  She's gonna continue to make him work for it and he'll have to continually spew words of affirmation, and work to calm, soothe and reel her back in some.

JMO

I love how you put this and I agree. It's a big thing to know that he can soothe her fears, be there for her, and live up to being the person she thinks he is. Plus, he obviously finds her kerfuffled feathers flying and flapping her tiny wings in frustration pretty adorable too  

I thought it was really cute when he laughed at her freaking out at the parents' house and totally indulged her dramatics by feeling her heart pounding. Same thing when he starts to laugh and she VERY sternly tells him it's not funny!! I think they'll do just fine together, assuming it's for real a relationship and not all a show, as you said.

Hey, being needy ain't a "bad thing", necessarily. It's just TOO much of being needy that's a "bad thing." Then again, being needy usually has some sort of positive AND negative. IMO. But gawd, let's not discuss the bathroom floor cry fest. According to one of Ben's interviews, they BOTH bawled in there..and he even said that was probably the most he ever cried while filming, let alone ever in his life. That whole scene was just...terrible. IMO.