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Post by Bobette Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:13 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:

Another thing that stands out to me is that the leaderboard has Cam and Lee in the top 2 and it seems to correspond to a lot of the pre-season media/articles about them both as well where Lee and Cam are the main focus

I find all this sleuthing absolutely fascinating.  Far more interesting than any crime/detective drama on TV!  

Anyway, I agree Cam has been the focus of a lot of official media but maybe for a different reason: I'm predicting he's potentially the next Bach.

I reckon Cam will go at the F4 ceremony and the other boys drop their heads because they're going to miss him.  Being F5 would also give Cam enough emotional distance from the finale for him to be able to come in fresh as the Bach being 'slightly wounded' rather than 'completely gutted', which you would expect an F2 to be.
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Post by brownravens Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:59 pm

All this sleuthing is so fun!

I'm thinking...
F1/F2 - Lee, Matty J
F3 - Jake
F4 - Courtney
F5 - Cameron
F6 - Clancy

I'm not sure about Cameron as the Bach 17 just because he's so young. So far all the Oz Bach have been over 30. Also not sure about a 3rd Bach from WA...
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Post by Miyala Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:28 am

4health wrote:Notice this is a long post, sorry!

Well I am reeled into this season and spent some time with my own sleuthing in the last couple days.  I have tried to follow along the SC thread etc.  Since I haven't participated here much and didn't watch Sam W's season I am being reeled in to this madness LOL, I was able to watch Richie's season un-spoiled, I was team Nikki but saw the relationship with Alex.    I dabbled in sleuthing at the very end trying to figure out what I didn't see from an editing point of view.  I am the person who thinks that the basic editing in one franchise stays pretty close to the same on each season.    I re-watched Richie's episode 1 of meeting out of the limo which I immediately noticed that tptb showed us during the limo introductions the story was given to us, I just didn't notice it.  In other seasons there was talk about preview-limo entrance placement-the music-M&G 1:1-FIR etc.  So, since I immediately noticed in Richie's E1 they gave us the key players, I went and re-watched Sam F's E1.  I watched that season so I knew who the key players were and sure enough tptb gave us the key players in her E1 also.
So, I went and re-watched Georgia's E1 and sure enough they gave us her key players.

So yes, I went back and watch Richie's and Sam's E1 and started to make notes.  I marked down who had a video, who had VO, what VO said, Who had a long walk, who had ITM, was their a personal reaction shown, either from lead or bach/rette, etc. etc.  When I was done doing that, with those two seasons sure enough things started to line up.  It showed who was the F1, MOT, F3-F4, sexy one, funny one, drama one.  

So, the next thing I did was I went to Sam W's season (which I didnt watch) and watched E1 and took notes of the same thing.  I was able once again identify the key players and the F1, MOT, sexy one, drama one F3-F4.  I still haven't watched that season in full but noticed the Emily was switched with Lana F2.  Emily would have been F3-F4 due to the M&G introduction etc IMO.

So, I did the same thing with Georgia's season.  
IMO Matty J is not the F1 he has the same edit during that episode as Rachel F4 (Richie's) Faith F5 (Richie's) Heather (Sam W) as for Sam F's season Michael F2 (Sam F).  All of these edits were part of what I call "quick intros".  They were part of the MOT group.  They were spotlights briefly with no reaction comments etc.  

He also was part of the break for commercial spotlight before the limos arrive just like Rachel (Richie's), Alex (Sam F), Emily & Heather (Sam W).

IMO the F1 lines up by the edit to be Jake F1.  The limo, VO, what VO was saying, ITM not during M & G, the long walk in, lead's VO reaction, ITMs, Jake's reaction, ITM in the house, part of the break for commercial highlight intro.   I am okay if I am wrong, I was surprised that all seasons were pretty much a match in total.  

This exercise was to see if F1 held true and I think it did...we shall see.  The exercise also gives us the F6 Jake, Matty J, Clancy, Cameron, Courtney, Lee just like the other seasons gave me the F6.  In what order of elimination that becomes harder.  In the other seasons the F3 showed VO of entrance talking about meeting the bach/ette - Richie (Sam F), Sarah (Sam W), Oleana (Richie).  

In Georgia's season the VO entrance talking about love was different because there were no intro videos before the limos arrived IMO the videos since Sam W season the F1 has not been featured. SamF F1 (Sasha) was featured.  Sam W video highlighted F3 Sarah F4 Heather F5 Nina.  Richie's season no top five in videos.
Cameron had a intro video but has other things missing to place him IMO higher them F5.

As for the prediction of order makes it hard to say because I have read posts about sleuthing and Matty J in singapore but IMO he isn't.  

My possible finals with out going by SC;
F1 Jake
F2 Lee
F3 Matty J/Clancy
F4 Clancy/Matty J
F5 Courtney/Cameron
F6 Cameron/Courtney

So let's have some fun and see if you see what I see LOL...sorry again for long post

Great work!

The one thing that could complicate it though is that I heard that it now is america produced. Since when has it changed producer? Or was it just last Bachelor season?

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Post by Miyala Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:33 am

I find it hard to believe that Clancy makes it so far. I don't see much between them. I overall find G hard to read, she seems so happy with a lot of the guys. Lee has been invisible for ages now but their date and how similar they are makes me believe he will go far. Im not so found of Jake so it may cloud my judgment in him not being F2. All the SC of Matty J make me believe he is F2. He is my favorite but I do believe Lee is a better fit for G. I can't see her keeping Courtney longer than F4 because it is all her in that relationship. If he would have been on he could have gone all the way. Cameron is a big question mark for me, he could go soon or really late, or not at all…


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Post by Miyala Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:35 am

so my guess is:

1) Lee
2) Matty J
3) Jake or Cameron
4) Courtney
5) Jake or Cameron

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Post by Miyala Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:35 am

Btw, G is in Sydney a lot. Does anyone of the men live there? Lee?

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Post by 4health Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:48 am

Miyala wrote:I find it hard to believe that Clancy makes it so far. I don't see much between them. I overall find G hard to read, she seems so happy with a lot of the guys. Lee has been invisible for ages now but their date and how similar they are makes me believe he will go far. Im not so found of Jake so it may cloud my judgment in him not being F2. All the SC of Matty J make me believe he is F2. He is my favorite but I do believe Lee is a better fit for G. I can't see her keeping Courtney longer than F4 because it is all her in that relationship. If he would have been on he could have gone all the way. Cameron is a big question mark for me, he could go soon or really late, or not at all…


[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] those were just my thoughts via meet and greet limo.... we shall see if the edit of the start of the F1 love story is the same as the past season.   When it came to Courtney and Clancy they were really close with identical notes and I placed them by Georgia's reactions, Courtney, Georgia's reaction was later in the night edited in from in side the house and with Clancy Georgia's reaction was ITM outside, and with that I noticed that the outside ITM in the other seasons the person eliminated later then the other way around. Hence Clancy after Courtney/ JMO ...... we shall see


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Post by Miyala Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:57 am

Yes, its very interesting, I agree handwave

I wish I knew the end. I am one of those who rather know who it is and enjoy their love story :yes:

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Post by LovingLove Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:01 am

Miyala wrote:Btw, G is in Sydney a lot. Does anyone of the men live there? Lee?

Of the potential F1s, Lee is in Melbourne, Matty and Courtney are in NSW, Jake and Clancy are in Qld and Cam is WA.
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Post by Stripe Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:26 am

One of the things that has stood out to me in regard to Matty is that the two dates that GL organises for Matty are both things that he has told her that he likes (the croquet and then the dancing lessons). This really reminds me of the Sam and Sasha painting date that Sam organised for Sasha. It seems that she puts a lot more thought into his dates that anyone elses.

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Post by nd4reality Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:28 am

From sleuthing SCs, promos and other bts indicators, how the editors enhance and minimize edits of various contestants over their shows appearance each season and watching more shows that I can remember - here are my predictions

1 Lee
2 Matty
3 Jake
4 Courtney
5 Cam


the 2 I'm not sold in are 4 and 5 but 99 per cent sure of those two.


She likes court a lot more and will try and squeeze that rock for blood as long as she can so he stays longer.

I think we'll see it play out exactly as above.


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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:55 am

welcomeback [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] great post yes

As posted [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] there are some other clues for Jake as F1 and I also can see Jake as possible F1. To me, F1 is still between Jake or Lee (or possibly Matty, with Lee and Matty as my faves) but if going by the 3 videos on tenplay (which Sasha had and Alex had too) then I think that, along with Jake having a longer chat shown in 1st episode (Lee's was much shorter) are the two pros the edit listed upthread that I think could tie into Jake being F1.

That said, it is a bit odd that none of the eliminated contestants have said anything about Jake being possible F1 but it could be they have been instructed not too?

no idea
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