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Post by LovingLove Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:33 am

In regards to the Clancy pic on Insta GL and Lee have liked.... it's also been liked by Matt D, Jake, Courtney and Kiki from The Bachelor. As GL and Lee don't follow each other they wouldn't see what the other had liked and then jump on to like it. Only way it's not coincidence is if they're sitting on their phones together... but that would be a bit sad considering how little they get to see each other :P

Not sure how much we can read into it. Stringy tagging them both may be more of a hint to something, if anything?!
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Post by Flowergrrl Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:28 am

Bobette wrote:
lrose wrote:Are we still speculating that Courtney 'returns' after walking out?


I am. But I seem to be Resident Conspiracy Theorist so not sure how many others are on board my crazy train of thought  Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - SM Media -  *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 66 3806527698   After what AAL said about the production shifting to the US, and the suggestion that Courtney was brought in to play a part, I can totally see them doing a 'dramatic return'.  They want people to be screaming at their TV's "NOOOOOOO Georgia, not HIM!!!".  Then, when she chooses one of the sweethearts, we will feel even better about it, love the result, and ensure the survival of the franchise.  I.  M.  O.!

I'm with you @Bobette! I have this weird sinking suspicion... the F1 music... the screenshot on the Singapore boat (not proven). It MAY be that Courtney has been on the show all along to play a role. He is an actor after all... and he might just make a return to bring some added drama IMO.

The fact that they never showed him telling Georgia about his TV career (surely they would've had a conversation about them both being on TV?!).

The First Impression Rose. But then not trying on the GDs? Recent pap photos showing him with another Georgia on a Sydney beach?! Now this article about him buying a ring? And he's one of the ONLY contestants who has gone back and liked some of Georgia's IG photos from months ago. They are setting something up IMO. I'm just not sure what.

Yes I'm totally hopping on the crazy train with you @Bobette! Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - SM Media -  *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 66 3806527698
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Post by Bobette Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:57 am

Flowergrrl wrote:
Bobette wrote:
lrose wrote:Are we still speculating that Courtney 'returns' after walking out?


I am. But I seem to be Resident Conspiracy Theorist so not sure how many others are on board my crazy train of thought  Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - SM Media -  *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 66 3806527698   After what AAL said about the production shifting to the US, and the suggestion that Courtney was brought in to play a part, I can totally see them doing a 'dramatic return'.  They want people to be screaming at their TV's "NOOOOOOO Georgia, not HIM!!!".  Then, when she chooses one of the sweethearts, we will feel even better about it, love the result, and ensure the survival of the franchise.  I.  M.  O.!

I'm with you @Bobette! I have this weird sinking suspicion... the F1 music... the screenshot on the Singapore boat (not proven). It MAY be that Courtney has been on the show all along to play a role. He is an actor after all... and he might just make a return to bring some added drama IMO.

The fact that they never showed him telling Georgia about his TV career (surely they would've had a conversation about them both being on TV?!).

The First Impression Rose.But then not trying on the GDs? Recent pap photos showing him with another Georgia on a Sydney beach?! Now this article about him buying a ring? And he's one of the ONLY contestants who has gone back and liked some of Georgia's IG photos from months ago. They are setting something up IMO. I'm just not sure what.

Yes I'm totally hopping on the crazy train with you @Bobette! Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - SM Media -  *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 66 3806527698

CHOO CHOO!  Welcome aboard the Conspiracy Express lolpanda

They are definitely up to something and I look forward to watching it play out, provided we still get a satisfying Georgia/Matty or Georgia/Lee outcome.  Happy for them to throw in a twist, but I need a payoff for all this sleuthing and emotional investment, dammit!
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Post by Sundy Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:10 am

LovingLove wrote:In regards to the Clancy pic on Insta GL and Lee have liked.... it's also been liked by Matt D, Jake, Courtney and Kiki from The Bachelor. As GL and Lee don't follow each other they wouldn't see what the other had liked and then jump on to like it. Only way it's not coincidence is if they're sitting on their phones together... but that would be a bit sad considering how little they get to see each other  :P

Not sure how much we can read into it. Stringy tagging them both may be more of a hint to something, if anything?!

As quoted up thread it was to indicate that they are both currently active on social media. I was not inferring that they are active together. Nothing more nothing less. I think the following of two private productions staff is more of an indication. That said I never rely solely on SM and focus more on Scaps for the past 6 seasons
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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:58 am

emusha wrote:
Just Looking wrote:
emusha wrote:GL said this is her favorite song at the moment that's recently come out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q31tGyBJhRY

Incredibly sad.  I hope it's not a sign of hearbreak for G

I was more thinking it is about a guy who stands and watches the girl he's in love with and how much it hurts him until finally she sees him and rushes towards him? -- am I imagining it or does the edit for Matty J & Lee on this show match this song in some sort of way?

@emusha I may have missed it, did GL say this in article or interview? question

IA, listening to it, I do think it could be applied to either Matty or Lee.

...Matty being a darkhorse and not being noticed by Georgia straight away, and yet giving it his all and why doesn't she see him standing there...also about dancing so could be about their 2nd SD. Matty also gave her a mixtape when he met her (and the camera panned to G holding it in her hands) so could be a song he liked or put on mixtape? (Calum Scott was also on BGT 2015 so it could be Matty who lived in the UK liked his voice when living there?)

...Lee being shown worried and vulnerable and like you said, watching the girl he's in love with see her with other guys (something he brings up on his 2nd SD)... the dancing could apply to Lee being shown first dancing with GL on the GD as well.
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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:52 pm

Bringing this over from the Online Links thread..

Interesting that the pic used in the heading is of Matty and Georgia.
Also, Lee is missing from the list...
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LovingLove wrote:An article about some of the nice things the guys have said about GL

http://www.popsugar.com.au/celebrity/What-Bachelorette-Men-Have-Said-About-Georgia-Love-42573022#opening-slide
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Post by lightredemption Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:13 pm

^^Haha, I don't know why I find that article so amusing. I guess its the contrast of all the quite lengthy responses talking about how intelligent, classy and savvy Georgia is and then there's Matty's one-line romantic declaration. Ah my heart  Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - SM Media -  *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 66 2764 

They left off Lee, Jake and Courtney
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Post by Bobette Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:11 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:Bringing this over from the Online Links thread..

Interesting that the pic used in the heading is of Matty and Georgia.
Also, Lee is missing from the list...
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LovingLove wrote:An article about some of the nice things the guys have said about GL

http://www.popsugar.com.au/celebrity/What-Bachelorette-Men-Have-Said-About-Georgia-Love-42573022#opening-slide

Maybe they were deliberately posed, but this body language looks very intimate to me.  
She's definitely into him; I guess the question is whether she's into Lee more.  
Need a pic of G & L for comparison :detective


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Post by Guest Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:34 pm

lightredemption wrote:^^Haha, I don't know why I find that article so amusing. I guess its the contrast of all the quite lengthy responses talking about how intelligent, classy and savvy Georgia is and then there's Matty's one-line romantic declaration. Ah my heart  Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - SM Media -  *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 66 2764 

They left off Lee, Jake and Courtney

It sounds like all the comments are from exit interviews except for Matty's and no Lee, Jake or Courtney ???

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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:45 pm

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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:22 pm

Sundy wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:This is a bit interesting... Matty and Cameron in an article with 2 guys from Survivor AU


When Survivor faces off against The Bachelorette it’s six packs at 20 paces
Sally Rawsthorne, The Daily Telegraph
October 9, 2016  
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WHEN The Bachelorette’s Cam Cranley and Matty Johnson got together with Survivor’s Lee Carseldine and Sam Webb, the dating series contestants quickly came to a realisation.

“The Survivor guys are way more hardcore,” laughed Cranley.

“They’re absolute legends! We were glad they weren’t on our show, because they might have been tough competition,” added the firefighter, who has emerged as a serious contender for Bachelorette Georgia Love’s heart.

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You thinking what I'm thinking? Cam or Matty are being lined up for Bach 17.
It is possible... Not sure though unless Matty is F2 otherwise they could have an article of him for F1?

It's odd though that Matty is in an article like this with Cam. It definitely seems like it was planned, especially with Cam... question
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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:37 pm

RomComet wrote:As for your comment about the show not being in the business of making fans happy, ... but as a drama TV producer for 15 years in LA, with close friends working in reality TV, I can assure you that the attitude is that making the fans happy equals making money. Pissing off the fans usually results in (but not always) low ratings, which means lower advertising fees, which means less money for the network. In my experience (IME? ;-) ), the goal is to make shows as compelling as possible - and sometimes this means courting controversy - without "alienating the fans" ie making them unhappy.  
O/T: The problem with that is Richie's season proved that they didn't care most about making fans happy. They could have highlighted the F1 love story much more than what they did and even Richie talked about how his lovestory with Alex was hidden and the backlash he received is proof that they were more about misleading and misdirecting (not just on the show but with the media about the show and so many pro-Nikki articles). Their push of Nikki was definitely courting controversy and by the time of the finale, their ratings went up likely because of most viewers wanting to see the push for Nikki come into fruition. However, after the finale viewers were upset and definitely unhappy.

It's possible that they want to make those fans happy now for Georgia's season and win them back, but the ratings seem to indicate that viewers are already alienated so that goes against the premise that they didn't want to tick off fans of the show. So I won't be holding my breath when it comes to The Bachelor/Bachelorette shows, especially with the US producing now and after Richie's season. If Bach/Bette AU goes the way of the US shows, one of the strategies they could take is give great edits to their chosen next lead and make that their priority and not the lovestory of the F1/lead (as is often the case with the US shows). They did it with Richie, and it looks like they did it with Nikki too if she ends up the Bette (hard to say now just because of the time until filming, but OK mag and other media stating Nikki would be the way they did with Richie).

So while I understand that making fans happy is part of getting people to watch the show, I disagree that it is TPTB's main priority. I do think, however, that if they choose to highlight the lovestory of the F1/lead for Georgia's season it will be because of the backlash from Richie's season and an attempt to draw back viewers for Bach S5 (so more that reason than them wanting to please fans since they could have done that already with Richie's season). jmo


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