Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #6

I think Jordan and JoJo will be together and try to make a go of the relationship in RL. I also think they most likely have been on and continue to be on a very rocky road. There is No Way that all the negative press that Jordan has received and all the rumors plus the criticism JoJo gets for choosing him on SM..has not taken a toll on each of them personally and their relationship as well. They have a lot of additional baggage they have to deal with in the infancy of their very public relationship. That is a lot of stress. I hope they can focus on the positive reasons they chose each other. I think the the two of them are very similar and need time together in the real world to be together in daily life and sort through whatever issues and challenges come their way. Hopefully they can share laughs about this crazy social experiment they a living in. Best of luck to them both.    JMO

Seabear wrote:I think Jordan and JoJo will be together and try to make a go of the relationship in RL. I also think they most likely have been on and continue to be on a very rocky road. There is No Way that all the negative press that Jordan has received and all the rumors plus the criticism JoJo gets for choosing him on SM..has not taken a toll on each of them personally and their relationship as well. They have a lot of additional baggage they have to deal with in the infancy of their very public relationship. That is a lot of stress. I hope they can focus on the positive reasons they chose each other. I think the the two of them are very similar and need time together in the real world to be together in daily life and sort through whatever issues and challenges come their way. Hopefully they can share laughs about this crazy social experiment they a living in. Best of luck to them both.    JMO

Well said and IA. I'm very interested to follow their journey and hope for the best for them. Their dynamic is probably going to be very interesting to overanalyze also so I'm excited haha.

Seabear wrote:I think Jordan and JoJo will be together and try to make a go of the relationship in RL. I also think they most likely have been on and continue to be on a very rocky road. There is No Way that all the negative press that Jordan has received and all the rumors plus the criticism JoJo gets for choosing him on SM..has not taken a toll on each of them personally and their relationship as well. They have a lot of additional baggage they have to deal with in the infancy of their very public relationship. That is a lot of stress. I hope they can focus on the positive reasons they chose each other. I think the the two of them are very similar and need time together in the real world to be together in daily life and sort through whatever issues and challenges come their way. Hopefully they can share laughs about this crazy social experiment they a living in. Best of luck to them both.    JMO

I always love what you have to say @Seabear ! So well said and I agree. You always say what I'm thinking but in a more consise, compassionate way.

northernviewer wrote:IMO - RS's biggest "source" is this board!

RS says he doesn't read any forums about the franchise and I believe him. We've posted a lot of spoilers he could have posted on twitter/his blog but he doesn't. Maybe fans of RS send him information they read on the board. They certainly send him reader emails about members who post here JMO

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Seabear wrote:I think Jordan and JoJo will be together and try to make a go of the relationship in RL. I also think they most likely have been on and continue to be on a very rocky road. There is No Way that all the negative press that Jordan has received and all the rumors plus the criticism JoJo gets for choosing him on SM..has not taken a toll on each of them personally and their relationship as well. They have a lot of additional baggage they have to deal with in the infancy of their very public relationship. That is a lot of stress. I hope they can focus on the positive reasons they chose each other. I think the the two of them are very similar and need time together in the real world to be together in daily life and sort through whatever issues and challenges come their way. Hopefully they can share laughs about this crazy social experiment they a living in. Best of luck to them both.    JMO

Well said and IA. I'm very interested to follow their journey and hope for the best for them. Their dynamic is probably going to be very interesting to overanalyze also so I'm excited haha.

Agreed. When she first came out at the MTA, didn't she say something along the lines of "I wasn't expecting all of this" when CH asked how she was doing? She's probably emotionally drained from it all. I tend to think they're not broken up yet, but it's probably been difficult. I hope they at least give it a shot in real life where they don't have to see each other every couple of weeks for just three days.

Thanks @sosleepy ! I feel the same way about you and your posts. Like minds......

IMO the biggest obstacle for Jordan and JoJo is their similarity. Particularly the deep personal insecurity that they both seem to embody. I hope both of them can use this huge mirror from this experience and take away from it a new sense of self acceptance. JoJo needs to stop questioning Jordan at every turn. She needs to work on her neediness and clingy behavior. That can be suffocating in a relationship. They need to have complete trust in each other or their relationship will not work. I also think both of them still have a lot of growing up to do. Jordan needs to stop always saying whatever JoJo wants to hear and speak his truth...be more genuine. He also needs to let go of his need to compare himself to Aaron and just chart his own life course on his own merits. If they stay together...I will expect a long engagement period....which IMO they need because of the baggage they are carrying individually and together.    JMO

jen689 wrote:

northernviewer wrote:IMO - RS's biggest "source" is this board!

RS says he doesn't read any forums about the franchise and I believe him. We've posted a lot of spoilers he could have posted on twitter/his blog but he doesn't. Maybe fans of RS send him information they read on the board. They certainly send him reader emails about members who post here JMO

I dont believe him.... And he's never going to admit to reading here .... Not after what he's said about us

northernviewer wrote:

jen689 wrote:

northernviewer wrote:IMO - RS's biggest "source" is this board!

RS says he doesn't read any forums about the franchise and I believe him. We've posted a lot of spoilers he could have posted on twitter/his blog but he doesn't. Maybe fans of RS send him information they read on the board. They certainly send him reader emails about members who post here JMO

I dont believe him.... And he's never going to admit to reading here .... Not after what he's said about us

Actually--it has been proven in the past and dealt with. No secret. So liar liar pants on fire.

Seabear wrote:IMO the biggest obstacle for Jordan and JoJo is their similarity. Particularly the deep personal insecurity that they both seem to embody. I hope both of them can use this huge mirror from this experience and take away from it a new sense of self acceptance. JoJo needs to stop questioning Jordan at every turn. She needs to work on her neediness and clingy behavior. That can be suffocating in a relationship. They need to have complete trust in each other or their relationship will not work. I also think both of them still have a lot of growing up to do. Jordan needs to stop always saying whatever JoJo wants to hear and speak his truth...be more genuine. He also needs to let go of his need to compare himself to Aaron and just chart his own life course on his own merits. If they stay together...I will expect a long engagement period....which IMO they need because of the baggage they are carrying individually and together.    JMO

You are my Zen!

Jordy has certainly brought out the worse parts about Jojo. I remain at thinking she just chose a newer version of ChadR.

Seabear wrote:IMO the biggest obstacle for Jordan and JoJo is their similarity. Particularly the deep personal insecurity that they both seem to embody. I hope both of them can use this huge mirror from this experience and take away from it a new sense of self acceptance. JoJo needs to stop questioning Jordan at every turn. She needs to work on her neediness and clingy behavior. That can be suffocating in a relationship. They need to have complete trust in each other or their relationship will not work. I also think both of them still have a lot of growing up to do. Jordan needs to stop always saying whatever JoJo wants to hear and speak his truth...be more genuine. He also needs to let go of his need to compare himself to Aaron and just chart his own life course on his own merits. If they stay together...I will expect a long engagement period....which IMO they need because of the baggage they are carrying individually and together.    JMO

IA with what u said except for the two bold sentences.

I do not think Jordan was the one comparing himself to Aaron. It was other people doing that and it made whatever he did not good enough for them IMO.

I think Jordan is in a lose-lose situation with Jojo because she likes him so much and have latched on to him, whenever he tried to be genuine and truthful like when he said does not know where he will be in a year, Jojo didn't want to hear that and basically coerced him to say what she wants IMO and that's totally on her because at the end of the day she is the lead, this is a tv show and if your truly "inlove" with someone on this show and you want to stay in the competition, sometimes you have to tell the lead what he/she wants to hear. This happens very often on this show. I noticed it on Ben's season as well

Dessler wrote:

Seabear wrote:IMO the biggest obstacle for Jordan and JoJo is their similarity. Particularly the deep personal insecurity that they both seem to embody. I hope both of them can use this huge mirror from this experience and take away from it a new sense of self acceptance. JoJo needs to stop questioning Jordan at every turn. She needs to work on her neediness and clingy behavior. That can be suffocating in a relationship. They need to have complete trust in each other or their relationship will not work. I also think both of them still have a lot of growing up to do. Jordan needs to stop always saying whatever JoJo wants to hear and speak his truth...be more genuine. He also needs to let go of his need to compare himself to Aaron and just chart his own life course on his own merits. If they stay together...I will expect a long engagement period....which IMO they need because of the baggage they are carrying individually and together.    JMO

IA with what u said except for the two bold sentences.

I do not think Jordan was the one comparing himself to Aaron. It was other people doing that and it made whatever he did not good enough for them IMO.

I think Jordan is in a lose-lose situation with Jojo because she likes him so much and have latched on to him, whenever he tried to be genuine and truthful like when he said does not know where he will be in a year, Jojo didn't want to hear that and basically coerced him to say what she wants IMO and that's totally on her because at the end of the day she is the lead, this is a tv show and if your truly "inlove" with someone on this show and you want to stay in the competition, sometimes you have to tell the lead what he/she wants to hear. This happens very often on this show. I noticed it on Ben's season as well

Ita with the bolded. She pressured him which can also feel like nagging. So now Jordy has to deal with a weeper and a nagger . Mo