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Post by ThankMeLater Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:38 pm

LeapofFaith wrote:It's interesting how Richie has said in interviews that he wears his heart on his sleeve and it becomes obvious towards the end who he picks!...but mate I think he is doing an amazing job hiding his true feelings I can't tell anything! IMO he is into all of them Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 52 2292733854 but I'm with u [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] f2 Alex and f1 Olena or Nikki whichever goes through.....
I too remember him saying that! You can't tell how he is feeling laugh out loud. Or, it could be the editors cutting anything out that comes off as obvious.

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Post by Joy15 Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:21 pm

ThankMeLater wrote:
LeapofFaith wrote:It's interesting how Richie has said in interviews that he wears his heart on his sleeve and it becomes obvious towards the end who he picks!...but mate I think he is doing an amazing job hiding his true feelings I can't tell anything! IMO he is into all of them Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 52 2292733854 but I'm with u [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] f2 Alex and f1 Olena or Nikki whichever goes through.....
I too remember him saying that! You can't tell how he is feeling laugh out loud. Or, it could be the editors cutting anything out that comes off as obvious


IA with you on the editors cutting out the obvious parts. To me, the RIKKI connection is soo obvious...its far ahead the connection R has with the other girls, by miles Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 52 2498057887 . JMO. The recent 'evidence' was on episode 13, when they just can sit and talk in the middle of the wood, going back and forth...and laugh at each other's quirks. I cracked up at Richie imitating Nikki 's "YESSSSSS".... Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 52 3806527698 . IMO They just GET each other  awwww.

Im thinking the real RIKKI interactions could go either way :
- Yes. IMO Nikki is portrayed as all-in and invested much (inline with her storyline if R will ever reciprocate, btw). Yet we don't know if R feel the same way*. I tend to look into little gestures- such as R stroking her thigh , kissing her forehead, cheek and hand. It may serve as a significant clue. IMO. However, I highly suspect the editors cutting out most part where Richie was seen all-in and invested as-much. Otherwise, it would be a dead give away, i think.

- The natural dynamic of their coupling is exactly as we've seen. maybe Nikki is the one  who "wears the pants" in this relationship?.. giggling . I do hope unlike the Farmer did Whitney (who got similar edit with Nikki as stated in my prev post), Richie would cherish Nikki and be a real gentleman that - i think- he is.  Praying

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Nikki declares her love to Richie but does he feel the same? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] << THIS is Nikki's storyline :yes: . JMO


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Post by Chi Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:23 am

My first prediction was Olena being the F1 and I really wanted her to be F1 (like I can really see the clues from Richie). However, the past episode's edit mostly shows conflicts with Olena. I still like her but I was put off when she said that if her dad sees something wrong with the guy, she won't fight for him. I can still see the possibility of her being F1 but it seems there will already be complications from the start (not to mention the big question about 'moving').

At this point, I also wanted Nikki to win. But I can't still see strong evidences to convince me that Richie likes her enough to be the F1. From their 1 on 1, it's more of Nikki initiating and being cuddly cuddly with him. Like I can really tell how in love she is. Richie, being the nice guy, seems very good in camouflaging with his date's emotion. It is so easy to perceive Nikki's bubbly-ness as Richie's emotion too when it seems he is only responding to Nikki's aura of happiness. But then at the part when they're saying goodbye, I can't see the passion coming from him. He seems very nervous actually, like there's the automatic 'ha-ha' when Nikki becomes too showy with her feelings.
And did you guys see their hug? Richie was like gazing from afar which shows 'insincerity and awkwardness' for me. Nikki sometimes appear clingy which may overwhelm him.

That's why when I watched Nikki's hometown visit, I felt a mixture of happiness, sadness and dread. I don't even think who Richie likes anymore. I am more concerned of Nikki now. Like everytime she tells her family that 'he's the one' and when family responds that 'he’s also into her'... I'm like 'Damn girl, I really wish you don't get yourself burnt'
Like in every happy scenario with Nikki, I have this lingering thought of a possible negative outcome. The more she looks happy, the more I feel the dread. Like rejecting Nikki at this moment will be very very cruel. But then we are not Richie. In the end, he still needs to follow his heart and I won't take it against him if he doesn't choose Nikki. However, I'm pretty sure there will be a huge social media outcry if that happens (think Heather).

But then I'm still holding on to that part when Richie took Nikki for a private chat, and the fact that she's first single date and second single date. And maybe the reason why Nikki is hidden in screencaps is to give doubt and a surprise that Nikki is the F1.

With Alex, for some reason, I can't see her as F1 despite seeing the real physical chemistry. I don't know why.... maybe because I find her dramatic expressions kind of fake. Or maybe she has a naturally dramatic expression and I'm just not used to it. In fairness to her, she was honest about her son from the start. She even showed his son's picture which is very risky. And I can see that she's aware of being the risky option too. Who knows? Maybe the reason why the Bach staff became emotional at the last filming was because they didn't expect Alex to be chosen and maybe the son came as a surprise (haha ok i'm going overboard). If it's true that she's one of the F2, then don't you think Richie would have a strong reason why she is still there? Won't it be quite cruel, knowing that she's a single mom, to give her hopes up only to be rejected in the end?

Anyway, we'll see how it goes.

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Post by romance realist Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:37 am

I can see different love stories for all three of the remaining women.
I am most interested in the Olena love story because it seems more complex and less mainstream.
Each relationship is valid & loving & that is why they are the F3.
I think there will be heartache however this goes and it isn't cruel, it's just where the show meets real life.

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Post by mercieme Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:11 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], regarding Olena...I see that comment about her father's approval as something very typical in certain cultures....I even have friends in this day and age that their parents did the choosing of their partners for them, it's just their culture and it works out for them. Regarding Nikki, I will just point out first that I respect the opinions of those that they believe there was a love story there....however another thing to look for in the show's edit is that the lead is the one that narrates the love story for the F1 but in this case Nikki has done all the narration, that was a big red flag for me in her edit. Even the SM analysis that [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] did reflected this. IMO, I don't think there will be major public backlash about Richie not picking Nikki because on FB (the latest post they have of Nikki in her F3 outfit), some of the comments expressed concerns about her declaring ILU to Richie too early and how that came across to them wasn't very positive. But we will have to see where it shakes out if indeed Nikki is out as F3 as I believe. Regarding Alex, she is honestly the one I feel for the most, especially because  some of the eliminated girls have said in their exit interviews that Alex was not as dramatic as they portrayed her. The only thing that makes sense to me for her edit is that she is F2 and they didn't want the public to backlash Richie for leading a single mum on....these are all jmho.

@romance realist IA totally with your comment regarding heartache and this show. I have said many times, I can't ever advise anyone I know personally to do this show just because of the heartache that comes with the territory. Time is a great healer though and hopefully great opportunities will come for all the girls as a result of the show...jmo.

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Post by AllAboutLove Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:29 am

IA that each contestant has their own "journey" with the lead and so different love stories can be seen...
Sometimes the journey and love story ends in heartache and not being F1.
Sometimes the journey and love story ends in happiness and being F1.
And sometimes the journey and love story ends in being F1 and heartache follows.

So for me I also can see that different love stories can be seen and felt with each contestant and the lead and no one story is right or wrong or invalid just because it is not F1 or valid because it is F1. It's just what each viewer responds to, imo.

It's why for me I always have to sleuth F1 separately by FRC time especially when it comes to s/caps as I had to do with Heather as soon as I realized there were no more s/caps for her and the same with Richie and that they wouldn't be F1 and their journey would come to an end. And just because they weren't F1, it's never been a waste for me to enjoy watching that journey regardless of the outcome and even being heartbroken or sad when it ends, because in a way, there's beauty in just watching the journey.

Likewise, I have watched love stories that do end in F1 and while s/caps and the F1 ending may have validated my feelings of seeing a love story, sometimes that love story ends up crashing and burning off-screen (as it did with Sam Frost and Blake) and other times it gets better off screen (Art and Matilda).

Either way though, whether seeing a love story for F1 or seeing a love story for non-F1, it is the journey I enjoy most of all and why I love this forum and going on the journey sleuthing together, seeing things the same or differently, but still, always, together. group hug
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Post by Joy15 Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:35 am

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Post by Loulou Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:36 am

AllAboutLove wrote:IA that each contestant has their own "journey" with the lead and so different love stories can be seen...
Sometimes the journey and love story ends in heartache and not being F1.
Sometimes the journey and love story ends in happiness and being F1.
And sometimes the journey and love story ends in being F1 and heartache follows.

So for me I also can see that different love stories can be seen and felt with each contestant and the lead and no one story is right or wrong or invalid just because it is not F1 or valid because it is F1. It's just what each viewer responds to, imo.

It's why for me I always have to sleuth F1 separately by FRC time especially when it comes to s/caps as I had to do with Heather as soon as I realized there were no more s/caps for her and the same with Richie and that they wouldn't be F1 and their journey would come to an end. And just because they weren't F1, it's never been a waste for me to enjoy watching that journey regardless of the outcome and even being heartbroken or sad when it ends, because in a way, there's beauty in just watching the journey.

Likewise, I have watched love stories that do end in F1 and while s/caps and the F1 ending may have validated my feelings of seeing a love story, sometimes that love story ends up crashing and burning off-screen (as it did with Sam Frost and Blake) and other times it gets better off screen (Art and Matilda).

Either way though, whether seeing a love story for F1 or seeing a love story for non-F1, it is the journey I enjoy most of all and why I love this forum and going on the journey sleuthing together, seeing things the same or differently, but still, always, together. group hug

Beautifully said AAL :cutesmile!:

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Post by romance realist Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:50 am

Beautifully said AAL :cutesmile!: [/quote]
:tissuebox  I love you all too

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Post by Quane Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:59 am

AllAboutLove wrote:IA that each contestant has their own "journey" with the lead and so different love stories can be seen...
Sometimes the journey and love story ends in heartache and not being F1.
Sometimes the journey and love story ends in happiness and being F1.
And sometimes the journey and love story ends in being F1 and heartache follows.

So for me I also can see that different love stories can be seen and felt with each contestant and the lead and no one story is right or wrong or invalid just because it is not F1 or valid because it is F1. It's just what each viewer responds to, imo.

It's why for me I always have to sleuth F1 separately by FRC time especially when it comes to s/caps as I had to do with Heather as soon as I realized there were no more s/caps for her and the same with Richie and that they wouldn't be F1 and their journey would come to an end. And just because they weren't F1, it's never been a waste for me to enjoy watching that journey regardless of the outcome and even being heartbroken or sad when it ends, because in a way, there's beauty in just watching the journey.

Likewise, I have watched love stories that do end in F1 and while s/caps and the F1 ending may have validated my feelings of seeing a love story, sometimes that love story ends up crashing and burning off-screen (as it did with Sam Frost and Blake) and other times it gets better off screen (Art and Matilda).

Either way though, whether seeing a love story for F1 or seeing a love story for non-F1, it is the journey I enjoy most of all and why I love this forum and going on the journey sleuthing together, seeing things the same or differently, but still, always, together. group hug

ITA with you [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I enjoy reading the posts especially the different perspective of the love story. We see different things yet we are all very professional to see that differences is not a bad thing and embrace each other's views. I salute all the efforts made the posters on the screen caps and analysis. They are better than reading a detective novel IMO. The best part of this forum is the wonderful and kind hearted posters in helping make it clearer to me who at times were lost among the hundreds of posts. Lol. handwave scratch

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Post by Joy15 Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:13 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  hi

hope this post belong here as i don't want to interfere the sleuthing currently going on the SC thread.

I may or may not onto something with this.  giggling

soo..i have sorted out the PIs for the F4 girls for the past 4 episodes. I think i have found the SPESIFIC BACKDROP exclusive to only the F3 girls, with an ethnic magenta/orange-ish lamp in the back.
- i lean more to think those either were filmed in the Aussie past HTD or during the FDs in Bali.
- those serve to 'fill the gaps' in the storyline.
(if someone could bring over the caps..its great..but if not..its okay too ).
- FTR Rachael have yet seen on this setting.
As much as i would like to sleuth where it possibly could be..i'd rather pay attention to WHAT was said on those PIs. For practicality, i have paraphrased the original comments. Here we go..

1. Nikki -Episode 11
on 17:17 and 18:35 : feeling something never felt before, not expecting to fall in love with Richie this soon.
>pro Nikki as F1..fit her storyline - fall hard and fast for the guy, and has doubt if he will ever reciprocate*.

2. Alex- Episode 13
on 8: 56 : commenting over  Olena : "oohh....The Ukrainian Princess".. giggling
one thing i found so funny yet helpful about US and NZ franchise is : often any description (in the storyline)  of a contestant is being told by the others, especially her closest  'rival' (for instance, the F2 can see the connection between the lead and F1..etc). Since we know Alex is in the F2.(and i firmly believe b.o edit she is NOT the F1) .im thinking here she is commenting how Olena could'nt be the one for Richie who needs a girl who loves to do what he loves to do (as per storyline-not necessarily means this is the real fact). > contra Olena as the F1.
Hence, i interpret it as : Nikki is F1, Alex F2 and Olena is F3.

3. Olena -Episode 14
18: 36 : dad looking for respectful guy and Richie is one of them.
>needed for Olena storyline that Richie had qualities she look for in a guy, making viewers invested in her and Richie's story.

btw Episode 14.- 39: 46 is the farthest Rachel was seen on a PI before getting eliminated (definitely different backdrop, with the flowery lamp). The same backrop was applied to the F3s as well as  Steph, Faith and other girls too IIRC. so..its definitely not an overseas PI.

just thought i would share. Hope all makes sense... giggling  Praying


*from Bach AU twitter account :
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ETA: Not sure if Alex is locked as the F2..could go either way : Alex/Olena as F2/F3. (interchangeable)giggling . Still think Olena is the next Ette.:yes:


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Post by LoveDovez Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:22 am

Joy15 wrote:where i stand after episode 13 and 14. (not that it matters to Richie...but... Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 52 3806527698 )

i still peg Nikki as the F1, Olena F2 and Alex F3. But with you guys had done a wonderful job in SC thread....I have to say Nikki F1, Alex F2 and Olena F3.

One thing for sure, since episode 2 i thought RIKKI was an item and Olena is our next Ette (pay attention to both Nikki and Olena had their first date on that episode).

Interesting tidbits i found regarding episode 13 :
- Nikki was shown in her PI saying Olena as the front runner.
I believe Nikki's hurdle is her doubt whether Richie would reciprocate her love?. (Matilda has had similar doubt too...so.. its not a 'new' storyline for F1..tbh). OTOH her edit as being all-in and 'invested much' reminds me of Whitney, the F1 of Chris Soules. So... again..its nothing new. TPTB AU seem to combine the Matilda edit with her doubtful side, and Whitney's with her natural trait of being a go-getter.

IIRC on earlier episode , on the i'ntimate test 'GD....we have seen A LOT of Olena's PI being a a spoke person (kinda) for Nikki...when Alex's getting intimate with Richie. This is in line with Nikki's storyline above. As the season progress, the editors want us to think not only she has seen Alex connection with Richie..but Olena's too.(the point in all is this, interestingly,she was not saying all of this to the camera/girls/Richie...instead it implied in her own PIs, or Olena's PI..or other girls's PIs...which made me think this IS the storyline they are panning for her.) JMO

- On the camping GD...in a nutshell, Olena was painted as 'not compatible ' for Richie..as 'witnessed' by Rachael, Alex and Nikki in their respective PIs (keeping in mind...these PIs were put for a 'reason').. See...Richie's main storyline is to find someone who is compatible with his aspirations and life style aka his perfect match. In this sense, Olena is not the  F1. JMO.

- In my personal view, Olena is fun to watch as she has very amusing facial expressions...and her rolling eyes is epic laugh out loud. I really think her future contenders will gugu-gaga over this beauty. Her storyline as the one who had the walls up serve as backstory for her next journey...IMO. Being the dumpee F3 is also the usual spot for the next lead over US franchise..just as Richie. So i am on board with her being next Ette and i'll definitely watch her season.  :yes:

- There is an important VO (Voice Over) on RIKKI 1-1 time on the camping date. on 19:35 mark Richie's VO was inserted saying ' she brings out the best in me'. This is one of the dead away of Nikki as F1 in my book.  :yes: . Is actually a repeat of the same VO Richie said on their 2nd date when they were doing those silly dances. These 2 VOs emphasized that Nikki is the one who can let Richie being Richie and yeah...basically..brings out the best in him.. :cutesmile!: . This is matched with Richie's storyline stated above.

- btw the VO was followed by another VO "she has a beautiful soul". Honestly..i lost count on how much Richie described Nikki with this cheesy line  : Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 52 3806527698 . Form the top off my head..dare i say...to the camera twice..and on the VOs..about 4 times...make a half of dozen in total. Well...thats one heck of a clue (of Nikki as F1) ...IMO  giggling


Now onto episode 14. For me..its more interesting to see how they portrayed each girls on the official Bach AU Twitter feed. You know...since HTD is basically the fair playing field with each girl got 1 date with Richie. Here is the compilation of how many gifs each girl had on the Bach AU twitter feed.
Alex 12
Olena 15
Rachael 6
Nikki 8

To me, this translate as inline with my presumption that Olena is their best Ette bet. I have wondered why Alex was dragged into F3, let alone F2. But with the fact that TPTB AU 'promoted' Alex along with Olena, i (kinda) figured out why...she is their second bet to be the Ette. JMO.

- Interesting on Nikki's HTD...that Richie had a VO saying Nikki got out of the limo first, was a first date girl...then she had the last HTD. I would guess..Nikki most likely would get the last MTP and LCD too..

JMHOAA. Sticking with Nikki F1, Alex F2 and Olena F3 AND the next Ette.




My heart wrestles with this season. I can see Nikki is all in, but I'm afraid she was all in before the season even started. However, I can see Richie being happy with Nikki. She has a very loving family that's warm and loving. I don't know that I would love her as the next Ette tho.

Alex I hate to say and don't want to sound rude about it, but I don't care for her either way. I find her to be very fake acting.. If I'm wrong about her then I'm sorry. For sure don't want her as the next Ette.

Olena, I wrestle with the most. I can see Ritchie really likes her and she does him, but I don't know that he's the best pick for her. I fell in love with her family but I'm not sure they would be behind her being the next Ette since they didn't even want her doing this show.. However, I would love for her to be the next Ette and have her choice of the men.

Exactly what is the episode or episodes for this coming week??? When is the finale? I've really enjoyed watching it and reading everyone's thoughts on here. ; )

AAL if this is in in the wrong thread please move it for me.. Thanks!

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