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AllAboutLove wrote:All posts/opinions about the show (not other members) are most welcome, per [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] just be sure to add IMO for posts that are opinions and not facts, and a source for any pics/articles/SM/screeencaps/etc and we're all good to go hearthumbsup

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Post by Guest Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:51 am

happygolucky wrote:After watching all the episodes I'm even more convinced F1 is Olena. Since we don't have the "intruders doubt", like we had with Lana in SamW's season, I'll try to explain the edit similarities:
I would go as far and say that Nikki has the role-mix of what Sarah and Lana were. To explain: Sarah was the less confident in their relationship, even if she is a confident girl/woman in her own right (much like Nikki), but she didn't open her heart "enough" and so she ended being F3 (she had the 1st 1on1 date)... Lana was the one who jumped into the relationship, because of the circumstances arriving so late and was swirled into "bubble love", where she seemed perfect for Richie (even with the family, friends) and she was F2.
Richie gave Nikki on their 1st date a nudge "to open up" and let the heart speak ... and so she went that road ... so there's the mix that leads me to believe she will be the heartbroken F2.

In comparison to SamF's season, where Sasha had the 1st entrance, the obvious "alone time" (CP, SD) and  kisses and obvious strong feelings for the lead ... the lead herself was smitten with him from the night 1.

Megan who I saw as "Richie's person" in the house on the night 1 was the "Heather" of this season, meaning friend-zoned (mutual this time), that instant connection on the personal level of comfort and recognizing each other in the other ... but she was given a date pretty soon (3rd epi) so she figured it out while still clear minded and walked away herself (it was obvious she was pulling back in the episodes before the exit). She is also the one who identified the women Richie would be interested in: Nikki and Olena.

Megan also thought Richie would give Olena the white rose ... because that rose meant to the girls, who Richie was most interested in - who he had best connection with ... but as we know, the white rose is induced by producers and it went to the unfortunate Alex. Alex in terms of examples from Sam's season would be a mix of Lana, Emily and Heather. Meaning, she was flirtatious, dreaming of a perfect connection (that wasn't real) like Emily, she jumped into the relationship (with the reassurance of the Wrose) like Lana and she had her insecurities played out as Heather, only that those feelings took the better part away.

Faith (who happens to be my fave, but not for Richie) is the neutral girl (everyone's)... she is "friendly and bubbly and just overly cool" like Nina (F5) was, but in the light of a "negative/judgmental voice" (that Nina displayed especially towards the end) in the house I see Rachel better fitting. The only intruder that could mix the cards of the last 2 is Steph ... so I have no idea which roles/positions are theirs.

Now, what I notice about Olena F1 edit similarities with some other F1 roles is that her connection with Richie is not hidden. It is shown to us, but not in our faces shown.
The arrival ... we see him gush about her, he is smitten (just like SamW with Snez, like Tim with Anna, like Art with Matty, or SamF with Sasha) ... we hear her being "surprised" by him with that "oh sh*t" moment (like Snez was with Sam - forgetting his name (and her name was a topic during their getting to know each other), like Anna was with Tim - having the red lipstick on the teeth situation (that put her "down and personal" despite her unemotional predisposition to the matters of the heart)). Then the alone time at CP ... he wanted to speak to her (like all the previous leads with their F1) ... but she interrupted him when he was with the girl (Megan) whom he wanted to give 2nd rose to (awkward for Richie) ... so to make sure that Olena wouldn't misunderstand his interest, he told her to give him time and he would come to her ... and she never questioned herself or their connection over the other girls' ... that's the confidence edit that they give to F1 always. Also F1 usually displays a slight jealousy (to show the audience that F1 is invested, like certain stare Olena gave during 1 CP or like Snez once made a face) but it's never a theme with the focus on (and gives the F1 positive, happy face edit).

Also the F1 edit has a thread throughout the season. That cord later turns into a doubt, but it's a theme of their connection that presents the ending. With SamW & Snez it was her being a woman (lover) vs a mother, which manifested itself in Sam's obvious physical attraction/approach towards her and the understanding/pronouncing her name "snow white" (presenting far away culture - city) leaded to doubt whether there could be a future for them. With Tim & Anna it was her cool approach that made things easier for Tim at the beginning, but turned into a problem of whether she would ever warm up and express her feelings to him. With Olena it's the "eye-attack deep into one's soul" that immediately connects them... both say it, she on the 1st night, he during their 1st date ... "will it be a love at 1st sight?" ... but eventually the problem arises, that mystery that comes with it of her not opening up. The problem is usually the smoke, since it's not a problem at all, because no matter what, the chosen one is already a F1 in the lead's mind. It's only a representation of the fear. Fear because the stakes are high, especially when the lead has a "perfect option" on the other hand.

Ok [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I'm with you here and I wasn't going to post this as I know I'm bonkers but have a feeling everyone else is going to thinks so too after this but just found your findings and thought I would divulge what I found out . Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Page 22 3806527698

I think production is doing a number on us this year IMO because of the leaked photos. I was and I'm not kidding here, first on the Alex bandwagon as F1 until she started to appear screwy so ditched her. then everything being so in your face with Nikki, magazine articles, editing public opinion I thought for sure its Niki but IMo something didn't feel right, then Olena appeared, public popularity turned with Olena being the public favourite, she was well hidden then came her 2SD and boom. Kick in the guts moment. IMO the fact Richie appeared for the first time to not be awkward, he was expressing himself and somewhat articulating how he felt especially and this was the eyebrow cocking moment for me, he referred to the date not as a date but a relationship several times. IMO he already saw himself in that role in the 2SD. His ITM also didn't have him saying the scripted "I can see a future" that all the bachelors waffle on about. It was all about relationship.

So what about her being closed off, it was a bone of contention and a hurdle last episode. An easy way for viewers to dismiss her as F1 thinking the "Ukrainian vault" is never going to open up, then the sneak peek appeared. What so important about this? Ok
1. Take note of the voice over describing Nikkis date and Olenas move to open up.
They describe Nikki's as a "romance growing."
Olena they describe as "a move so unexpected that will make their relationship soar" There is that word again. The juxtaposition between romance and relationship is huge IMO.


2. SM, ok this is a weird one and someone needs to help me wade myself out of the confusion barrel on this one. Nikki who was on complete shutdown on SM has now gone on a like spree on Insta. Now she liked the picture of Olena in the red jumpsuit IMO I thought well she is being nice. Then she liked a pic of RIchie and Olena??? This is when the internal Scooby Doo came out. (Picture the voice whilst saying "what the," you'll get Scooby) if she is F1 why is she liking the pic of her BF with the sister wife, bewildered. IMO not something the F1 does. Next was the pic of Olena with the makeup artist that did her makeup for her night out in the red js. She also had TheBachelorAU tagged and Richie. Hashtagged only, so I thought well that doesn't mean anything IMO until The bachelor au and the production crew thebachaus private Insta page commented with "thanks for tagging have a fun night" The production crew also liked the pic on the Bach au Insta page of Richie and Olenas date? They haven't liked any other post. IMO they know what's up.

3. Ok last one and this was a nugget. Ozboardies posted a couple of pics of Richie in their board shorts. One with Rich with a bunch of models the other was a pic of Rich covering Olena with a towel on their first date. What's the big deal you might say? Well seeing Rich has been quiet on SM I found it extraordinary that the one pic he liked was the one of him and Olena. Now if I could paste a GIF of me falling over when I saw that I would trust me. Now this is the real nugget, he wasn't tagged with his handle, just hashtagged so he has scrolled through his [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on Insta and found that pic to like on 28July2016. Now considering how insecure and jealous Alex and even Nikki are, I imagine he wouldn't have done that if either of them were F1.

So what does this mean going forward, JMO Olena is F1. Alex is F2, Nikki is F3 or F4 which would explain why she is ok now I'm liking Insta pics of her and Rich as well as her sister following him IMO. The toss up here is Rachel. Is she F3 or F4. Some further S/C will determine that. If it is Olena and still keeping my mind open here, but if she is able to fight her closing off of emotions and does tell him she loves him, what a beautiful love story that is.

But can everyone agree on one thing, I'm definitely bonkers cantstopl

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Post by Loulou Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:32 am

Amazing Fifty!!! In awe of your sleuthing skills. Definitely NOT bonkers!!

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Post by solaroo Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:28 am

Wowzers [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] !!! They are some serious clues. You're not bonkers, I'm thinking those findings have swayed me away from Nikki as F1.
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Post by happygolucky Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:52 am

If Rachel made it into F4 (I'm still doubting that) she wouldn't pass it to F3. I have nothing against her, but the "critical eye" she showed with the girls (her negative PIs, CPs) is a no, no for F3 girls. Usually all F3 women are likeable and "worth to be" in the finale. So it's either Alex, Faith or Steph, since for me it's a given that Nikki and Olena are among F3.

P.S. About "Richie's person" I've mentioned describing Megan, I've meant someone who is very much like Richie, not that she is his other half or the best match. I have no idea if they are indeed similar, because I didn't investigate enough to understand the characters of these people, but I went with what Richie had to say when they met. I believe they simply saw themselves in the other and that's why the ease happened right off the bat, but there was no attraction "romantically".


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Post by Guest Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:06 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I've posted my sleuthing here above ^^^ I forgot to tag you before.

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Post by djogbenyuie Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:17 am

What is strange is that all of these SM activities just confirm for me that Olena is F2 and Nikki is F1. Of course just my opinion.
Usually the lead avoid any interaction with the F1 on social media. We have seen this with Sam and Snez or even for NZ last season.
However, that takes a strong F1 to bear with and I can see Nikki being that strong and confident in what they have.
Especially if she has all of Richie attention in private SM and RL.

Just my two cents.
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Post by happygolucky Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:22 am

Another thing about the thread ... Olena's "mystery" is said by Richie after the red carpet on the night 1 ... he didn't even know her at the time ... and every girl was a mystery to him.


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Post by LeapofFaith Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:22 am

Ok I thought Olena was f1 but with some doubt ... however now I don't [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] u have convinced me especially regarding Richie liking a pic of him and Olena...and the Bachau production liking a picture of rich and Olena...cmon now it is getting obvious imo that Olena is f1 but still hoping for more sc asap to really confirm...also I just can't get over the fact that I feel Olena is really really happy post show?....
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:57 am

djogbenyuie wrote:What is strange is that all of these SM activities just confirm for me that Olena is F2 and Nikki is F1. Of course just my opinion.
Usually the lead avoid any interaction with the F1 on social media. We have seen this with Sam and Snez or even for NZ last season.
However, that takes a strong F1 to bear with and I can see Nikki being that strong and confident in what they have.
Especially if she has all of Richie attention in private SM and RL.

Just my two cents.

I know it's completely bonkers and weird Imo which is why I was hesitant in posting. However why would Nikki like a pic with Olena and Richie from the Samfrostfanpage that has the hashtag [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. You could say it's a misdirection, you could even say she was being nice but at the same token IMO you could say Nikki is ok with Olena being with Richie now after seeing the show and how she presents herself as opposed to Alex who's pics she hasn't liked. She is far better off if she is F1 to not like anyone else's pics at all IMO that goes for Richie as well. Don't worry I still have internal doubts about it all and will need to wait for a few more episodes to be 100% convinced.

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Post by fangirlsamuri Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:14 am

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Bonkers or absolute genius?? I say absolute genius! You have definitely swayed my decision as well. After reading this, I can not cement anyone as F1 and can only lead towards Olena. Especially the part about him liking the ig picture. I checked and the caption was about what a gentlemen he is, and as you mentioned that would lead to jealousy if his F1 were otherwise. Please keep this coming you're excellent. Great sleuthing clapping!


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Post by HodanG Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:18 am

Fifty you never fail to amaze me! Wow great sleuthing. Yes! It has become apparent to me how happy Olena is post show, especially with the meet up with Steph! They seem to be besties.. They probably shared a room whilst in the mansion? Who knows... But for me, what I find extremely weird is that Nikki is liking pics of herself and Richie, aswell as Olena and Richie. Whereas Olena is only liking pictures of herself and with Richie. I find this very odd especially knowing that both girls have all of a sudden started to become active on SM at around the same time.I'm torn between whose F1 and F2. But I believe it truly comes down to Olena and Nikki! I don't see Richie saying goodbye to Nikki which makes me think she is F1 but based on you're sleuthing Fifty and everybody else's I also believe Olena is F1.
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