Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Fifty wrote:

happygolucky wrote:As stated before, I see Olena as F1 and Nikki as F2 and Rachael F3 ... and Nikki will be the heartbroken one ... so if there's anyone I would slightly feel sorry for is her, because of all the things she needs to read on her expense now, backing her up as a winner.
Look ... if she is, great for her ... I just don't see it in Richie's BL, eyes contact, physical approach, behaviour ...

At this stage we are all speculating unless someone is willing to track down that photographer.  I'm just unsure about SM this year as it doesn't seem consistent as to why Nikki is still in lockdown when Snez wasn't. It kind of doesn't make sense.  I think Nikki is a lovely person and her caring nature will shine through this coming ep when she comforts Alex. I'll just be a bit disappointed they didn't hide it a bit more for everyone considering how they were banging on about being papped. Oh and also Dave Bilsborrow I'm looking at you big mouth, he needs to keep his trap shut for the sake of the general public.  Either way as Alex has explained in an interview, she has made close friendships with Olena, Nikki and Megan and she says they will be life long friendships so I think the girls will be ok.  Hey maybe Richie does a Womack and doesn't pick anyone, who knows.  I am at this stage trying to eliminate as many S/C as these girls seem to have a plethora of them still to go, and basing it on things like music used in previous seasons.  It doesn't mean I'm right, by all means as I have said before I have flip flopped more than a presidential candidate this season because I have a tendency to overanalyse, but Im trying to find something that is concrete and I can't find anymore S/C for Nikki after the Barn kiss  which makes me think she is F4, again I could be wrong.

Interestingly [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] a psychologist replied to a post on the Bachelor Facebook site about the girls mental health and the psych said she is unsure if they see a psych but she knows that Richie isn't attracted to Nikki So maybe I wasn't the only one who didn't see the initial chemistry. If I find the post again, I'll make sure to pin it.

Quane wrote:

Fifty wrote:

happygolucky wrote:As stated before, I see Olena as F1 and Nikki as F2 and Rachael F3 ... and Nikki will be the heartbroken one ... so if there's anyone I would slightly feel sorry for is her, because of all the things she needs to read on her expense now, backing her up as a winner.
Look ... if she is, great for her ... I just don't see it in Richie's BL, eyes contact, physical approach, behaviour ...

At this stage we are all speculating unless someone is willing to track down that photographer.  I'm just unsure about SM this year as it doesn't seem consistent as to why Nikki is still in lockdown when Snez wasn't. It kind of doesn't make sense.  I think Nikki is a lovely person and her caring nature will shine through this coming ep when she comforts Alex. I'll just be a bit disappointed they didn't hide it a bit more for everyone considering how they were banging on about being papped. Oh and also Dave Bilsborrow I'm looking at you big mouth, he needs to keep his trap shut for the sake of the general public.  Either way as Alex has explained in an interview, she has made close friendships with Olena, Nikki and Megan and she says they will be life long friendships so I think the girls will be ok.  Hey maybe Richie does a Womack and doesn't pick anyone, who knows.  I am at this stage trying to eliminate as many S/C as these girls seem to have a plethora of them still to go, and basing it on things like music used in previous seasons.  It doesn't mean I'm right, by all means as I have said before I have flip flopped more than a presidential candidate this season because I have a tendency to overanalyse, but Im trying to find something that is concrete and I can't find anymore S/C for Nikki after the Barn kiss  which makes me think she is F4, again I could be wrong.

Interestingly [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] a psychologist replied to a post on the Bachelor Facebook site about the girls mental health and the psych said she is unsure if they see a psych but she knows that Richie isn't attracted to Nikki So maybe I wasn't the only one who didn't see the initial chemistry. If I find the post again, I'll make sure to pin it.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] did she say if Richie is attracted to any of the other girls. Body language experts I think did say his body language read negative with Alex but not Nikki. Another pair of Experts said body language wise, he is attracted to Olena. Is it possible only physical attraction.

I think last season a medium called Harry predicted Heather demise from the show. Maybe coincidence!

AllAboutLove wrote: and great post [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]! ITA with you on F1-F3 and Rachael at F4 possibly.

I found it interesting that Nikki and Olena had their first SD on the same episode and Nikki's first and then Olena's so if they are in F2, then it may have been that Richie saw them as his possible F2 from the beginning? It's also interesting to me that Olena is the only one who gets SDs when someone else gets SDs in the same episode (Nikki in Ep 2 and Keira in Ep 8). Not sure what it means though...

Nikki as F1
- I also see Nikki's edit similar to Matilda's and agree that they have that IT connection and like the girls said in the last episode "there is Richie with Nikki and then there is Richie with the other girls" so Nikki is different from them all.
- What was telling to me as well was that, even after his date with Olena, Richie made sure to speak to Nikki at the CP and away from the girls and they had their kiss and took that time to spend with her even thought there was no rose ceremony showed me that Richie put Nikki first before all the other girls (which aligns with what the girls said).
- Nikki's sister's SM activity since filming ended reminds me most of Snez's sister and Matilda's friends/family as well since her sister started following Richie and liking pics of Nikki and Richie soon after filming wrapped. I don't think she would do so if Nikki had her heartbroken?

Olena as F2 (I'd think Olena was F4 but she seems to have too many s/caps so I also see her as F2)
- Olena's edit reminds me of a typical F2 edit when it comes to "mystery", "intrigued" and being guarded with "walls up". Lisa/F2 (Bach AU S2) had a guarded/walls up edit as did JoJo on Bach US S20 and usually words like "intrigued/mystery" and not used for F1. In a way I would say that Olena already has a built-in reason why she could be let go (not enough time, etc, to fully open up).
- I struggle to see how Olena will be able to say "I love you" in the season preview VO if she is struggling to open up at her 2nd SD. That's quite a leap in her edit to get there that fast for someone who is slow paced and more reserved, imo.

happygolucky wrote:I think physical attraction always won. Always. It's another thing talking about physical approach  ... edit only on physical connection ... those are usually F4, F3 spots ... or as it was with Bach NZ S1, Dani F2 ... she had physical connection, but the attraction was evident with F1 ... and in Bach19 season, CS season, there was a physical attraction with F2 Becca, IMO, and that's why I never believed in true F1 "love", which ended soon enough.

natik wrote:Watching Nikki and Richie it seems like she is more into him than he is into her. Most of the time she initiated the kisses. I mean he is the Bachelor what do you expect him to do?! Screaming to her " oh god no don't kiss me!" It is interesting that Nikki asked him for a kiss. Of course he would not say no. But on the 2 SD with Olena it was him who hinted to Olena to kiss her. And then commented that he waited for it too long. And he is always talking about a relationship with Olena. My thoughts about it were "why is he talking about a relationship with Olena, they barely know each other?!" But it seems like Richie is already in his thoughts in a relationship with Olena. IMO

happygolucky wrote:
people saw better connection with other guys (F2, F4), but that chemistry, that ease between 2 people who don't question each others attraction, but are just living it, by touching, kissing, talking without being "shy" how the other feels about them, you could see it with F1 only. It's so much easier to see that once you know who F1 is and when you have no personal preferences or ideas of who should be a perfect match.

happygolucky wrote:

natik wrote:Watching Nikki and Richie it seems like she is more into him than he is into her. Most of the time she initiated the kisses. I mean he is the Bachelor what do you expect him to do?! Screaming to her " oh god no don't kiss me!" It is interesting that Nikki asked him for a kiss. Of course he would not say no. But on the 2 SD with Olena it was him who hinted to Olena to kiss her. And then commented that he waited for it too long. And he is always talking about a relationship with Olena. My thoughts about it were "why is he talking about a relationship with Olena, they barely know each other?!" But it seems like Richie is already in his thoughts in a relationship with Olena. IMO

This is exactly what I had in mind. I see it too, her being into him more. I know when I watched this last season of Bette20 USA after seeing ATFR, knowing who "won", it was so evident from the start ... of course people saw better connection with other guys (F2, F4), but that chemistry, that ease between 2 people who don't question each others attraction, but are just living it, by touching, kissing, talking without being "shy" how the other feels about them, you could see it with F1 only. It's so much easier to see that once you know who F1 is and when you have no personal preferences or ideas of who should be a perfect match.

in_denial wrote:It's interesting that people are saying that Richie is not into Nikki - I remember watching Art and Matilda and thinking that they were just friends at first! I honestly didn't think there was anything there until much later. There is the chance that they are editing Nikki and Richie's interactions heavily and we aren't actually seeing Richie initiating kisses etc. IMO, you would have to be an extremely confident person to initiate all the kisses - I am thinking that he is initiating them, we are not seeing those and it is edited in this way to create doubt for the F1. Sam Wood did comment that there was a lot that wasn't aired between him and Snez.