THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** - F1-2-3 Predictions - *SLEUTHING*

For NON Spoiled members only! Discuss your predictions here.

Assuming our F3 are Robby, Chase and Jordan, here's how I rank them at the moment (the end of episode 3).

F1 - Jordan. JoJo seemed to be happy and very into Jordan tonight. She was hanging on him during the comedy part of the GD. Their alone time was what we saw in the preview. JoJo is clearly showing an interest in him (imo) and encouraging him to open up. Because Chad was on the GD, things were somewhat overshadowed. That said, I saw JoJo have a lot of energy/interest when it came to Jordan. I think it's significant at this point of filming that JoJo knew that Jordan was a potential bachelor for her season (as confessed in her first People's blog). I think this gave him a huge advantage over the others initially, especially after JoJo experienced their chemistry together. The question I have is will he implode at some point. Doubt is raised in the preview. Is it the F1's obstacle...or really his demise?

F2 - Chase. I, personally, love their time together. It feels like a natural progression of relationship. Not too hot out of the box...but slowly building. I love that JoJo expressed how she feels safe with him. He is not so in your face. Chase feels like a very believable F2. I still cling to my hope that he is the sleeper F1, but I don't sense JoJo's pursuit of him like I do sense for Jordan. TWT...plus we have yet to see an obstacle for their relationship (unless it is Jordan himself). In order for Chase to overtake Jordan as F1, I need to see a lot more energy from JoJo towards him. I think Chase has caught JoJo by surprise...but with him apparently on the sideline on GDs until the 2-1, I'm not sure there's enough footage for his story line to develop.

F3 - Robby. Frankly, at this point, I don't feel like I have a handle on Robby. He was barely in epi 3 and had minimal time in epi 2. Thus, atm, there's no way I can place him any higher than this. Frankly, I probably wouldn't even put him in the F3...except we have SCs.

Litta123 wrote:Assuming our F3 are Robby, Chase and Jordan, here's how I rank them at the moment (the end of episode 3).

F1 - Jordan. JoJo seemed to be happy and very into Jordan tonight. She was hanging on him during the comedy part of the GD. Their alone time was what we saw in the preview. JoJo is clearly showing an interest in him (imo) and encouraging him to open up. Because Chad was on the GD, things were somewhat overshadowed. That said, I saw JoJo have a lot of energy/interest when it came to Jordan. I think it's significant at this point of filming that JoJo knew that Jordan was a potential bachelor for her season (as confessed in her first People's blog). I think this gave him a huge advantage over the others initially, especially after JoJo experienced their chemistry together. The question I have is will he implode at some point. Doubt is raised in the preview. Is it the F1's obstacle...or really his demise?

F2 - Chase. I, personally, love their time together. It feels like a natural progression of relationship. Not too hot out of the box...but slowly building. I love that JoJo expressed how she feels safe with him. He is not so in your face. Chase feels like a very believable F2. I still cling to my hope that he is the sleeper F1, but I don't sense JoJo's pursuit of him like I do sense for Jordan. TWT...plus we have yet to see an obstacle for their relationship (unless it is Jordan himself). In order for Chase to overtake Jordan as F1, I need to see a lot more energy from JoJo towards him. I think Chase has caught JoJo by surprise...but with him apparently on the sideline on GDs until the 2-1, I'm not sure there's enough footage for his story line to develop.

F3 - Robby. Frankly, at this point, I don't feel like I have a handle on Robby. He was barely in epi 3 and had minimal time in epi 2. Thus, atm, there's no way I can place him any higher than this. Frankly, I probably wouldn't even put him in the F3...except we have SCs.

ITA with everything you said...except that I am not necessarily hoping that Chase is a sleeper F1. I'm kind of in the camp of hoping Robby is a sleeper F1! Even though I now know Robby has SC of Thailand, thus placing him in the F4 (assusumed), Robby was my favorite from night 1. But I need to see more of my little spumoni with Jojo to read their BL together. They NEVER show them together as a couple! Epi 1, their alone time was preempted by Daniel, epi 2 irman date they did not show us any alone time for the 2 of them, epi 3 Robby never had a date orr aired alone time with her...yet...there is still the pool party that will air tonight, but that is going to be the Chad show.

I really dont know anything about Robby, literally just what has aired, which is minimal, but I am hoping that the girlfriend at home drama is just producer driven nonsense to add some sort of obstacle to their relationship. Jojo is fairly easy to read BL wise. You can see she is into Jordan at this point, but without any footage of Robby's time with her, I find myself asking Why? Why are they hiding him? Well, one of my theories is that they need to hide the chemistry that has been evident from night one. They dont want a repeat of Kaitlyn and Shawn. They might be going for more of a Trista and Ryan. Another known fact, IMO, is that the editors dont really care how much you know about or care about the F1. They want to edit the footage to try to get us liking and rooting for another finalist who they can then cast as a lead in future season. So, I'm thinking 2 things right now, Robby isnt being edited to be the next lead but he may be F2 or F3. But, since he seems like a good blend of handsome, dapper, serious and silly I would like him to stick around. As compared to Luke, who I feel no investment in at this point.

Obviously, my opinions are subject to change over time, but there is just something about Robby. That I like And when I find my muse I tend to stay with him to the end, bitter or happy.

@Litta123, I have to agree with you. Jordan already appears to be JoJo's F1, but I still can't shake these edits....the F1 edit could be Jordan & Chase at this point.

I'm with you Mia on the muse thing, bitter or happy, I'm the same way to the end.

I'm going out on a limb here-whichever one of Luke or Jordan makes it to Thailand I feel is the F1, she's pursued them, handsy and wants their kisses. We'll see what happens after Luke's date tonight, but right now-

Jordan or Luke F1
Chase F2
Robby F3
Jordan or Luke F4

I can see that, Lost^
I think I would switch:
F2) Robby
F3) Chase

I think Chase is F3/nexf lead, if not F1 based on his edit on that first date.

I'm going to make my predictions (since I was the one that suggested this prediction thread in the first place) AFTER tonights episode.
Fair warning, i am going to discount the excellent SC sleuthing here when I make my call.

nd4reality wrote:I'm going to make my predictions (since I was the one that suggested this prediction thread in the first place) AFTER tonights episode.
Fair warning, i am going to discount the excellent SC sleuthing here when I make my call.

Looking forward to it! This episode is confusing my original thoughts bit!

I don't have time to unpack it tonight, but I saw things in tonight's edit that has me 98% sure that Chase is the brokenhearted F2. More on this tomorrow.

After tonight, I feel Luke could legitimately be in the F1 running. I'm still leaning towards Jordan as F1. I'd like to see their 1-1 time which should be the next episode. At this point in filming, I feel like JoJo really wants it to be him (Jordan), but isn't closing down to a few others just in case. I suppose she could be a little cautious about trusting her feelings after how last season ended...when everything seemed to be lining up at the end that she would be Ben's F1...until she wasn't.

I'm still putting Robby at F3 because we know he's in Thailand. We know things change for him and JoJo because of the preview, but at this moment, to me, I can't see him higher than F3.

I agree with so many others that its between Jordan and Luke as F1 or next bachelor. If she didn't say the husband stuff about Luke, he would hands down be my pick for F1 after tonight. I think I need to see Jordan's 1-1 next episode to make a guess. If Robby is in F3, I think he is there by default. I think something has to happen to either Luke or Jordan to make them crash & burn...

Guys I've not finished watching this episode (on PST this week) but here is what I see in terms of BL at this stage.
1 jordan 2 luke 3 chase or even JT. 

Robby is still not really on her radar but we know he makes it to f3 so something must happen with either luke and/or jordan to take them off the front runners position.


Here is a possibility... One of them (luke or jordan) Cements himself firmly in her heart  and so she gets rid of the other before the evident chase and Robby  known to go to f3 via screen caps).


ETA I have yet to see such a pn immediate physical connection as Jojo and jordan. If he seems behind at this point I would venture a guess that this is a normal pace? He has said his feelings are growing which seems to be appropriate, if he was going faster folks would totally be accusing him of acting for the cameras or sometching similar.

I'm also at toss-up between Luke/Jordan.  The husband stuff actually made me lean towards Luke -- that was a Shawn-Booth-in-San-Antonio-esque date between them in PA.  And there was a way that she acted that was very, very different from how she acted with the other guys.

That said, I still think Jordan is close behind.  Dear JoJo:  yes, the hot dude in the hipster jeans and the cute the famous brother likes you!!  Pick him!!

Also, I'm not going to rule out Chase at all, but he's not my personal favorite for either JoJo or the next lead.  I do think she likes him a ton, and I still think there's Siegfried in his edit, so we will see.

Right now I'd rank
1/2.  Luke/Jordan
3. Chase
4/5. Derek/JT

Still no clue what the deal is with Robby, but I'm not ranking him for now even though he's screen-capped in Thailand.