The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 3-4 - June 6-7th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Oh yuck, she kissed Evan?     That on top of all the drama...no thank you, I'll definitely skip this week!    Well...other than the previews to make SCs.  

What do TPTB have on her to get her to kiss him?  

Boring.
Fake drama...boring.
JoJo and Ben and her need for sex...boring.
Men whiny little wieners....boring.
"Love story" we predicted before the season even started...boring.
The whole thing...BORING!

I thought JoJo was a dream last night, in the way she maneuvered 
herself through all the drama. Her reaction to JT was on point.
Sweet. Such etiquette for someone of her age. My only objection
was her strategy toward Evan "the real Villanova " :shocked!:

Nonina430 wrote:I thought JoJo was a dream last night, in the way she maneuvered 
herself through all the drama. Her reaction to JT was on point.
Sweet. Such etiquette for someone of her age. My only objection
was her strategy toward Evan "the real Villanova " :shocked!:

I agree. She keeps impressing me with her interpersonal skills and poise. I like watching likeable people and JoJo gets top marks from me. Still wish she had a better group of guys though, but perhaps they'll grow on me. The start of a season is always the worst and I feel like I read the same complaints every season at this point.

Sprite wrote:Boring.
Fake drama...boring.
JoJo and Ben and her need for sex...boring.
Men whiny little wieners....boring.
"Love story" we predicted before the season even started...boring.
The whole thing...BORING!

I sort of wonder if the reason we're finding this season so boring is that JoJo herself is finding it boring; at least she seems to me bored with the entire process. Or maybe just disinterested in going through the it ...

It was a quick kind of peck after the producers had her give him the GDR. She looked like she cringed a little doing it.

I agree, given all that crap I thought JoJo handled it as good as she could. She was sweet and attentive to James T who seemed fake to me. I also thought she was good with Chase.

BTW, I have no problem with JoJo wanting a strong physical connection. That is healthy and desire between partners is good for many things including their self esteem.

stuckinsc wrote:It was a quick kind of peck after the producers had her give him the GDR. She looked like she cringed a little doing it.

I agree, given all that crap I thought JoJo handled it as good as she could. She was sweet and attentive to James T who seemed fake to me. I also thought she was good with Chase.

BTW, I have no problem with JoJo wanting a strong physical connection. That is healthy and desire between partners is good for many things including their self esteem.

I agree about the benefits of a physical relationship. I found it tacky that that part of s relationship was explored before as Sprite called it, the character of a man was developed. In Ben's season it was about what talents they had by this time. For Jojo, it's about that they think about sex. Wonder how many of the guys had boners listening to each other's sex stories. Imo, it seemed like sex is foremost with her. She's a physical person by her admission and will no doubt find that counterpart . Like I said before, she must have had that with ChadR too and yet he still cheated on her. So it goes when you look for sex before character imo.

ForeverLove wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:It was a quick kind of peck after the producers had her give him the GDR. She looked like she cringed a little doing it.

I agree, given all that crap I thought JoJo handled it as good as she could. She was sweet and attentive to James T who seemed fake to me. I also thought she was good with Chase.

BTW, I have no problem with JoJo wanting a strong physical connection. That is healthy and desire between partners is good for many things including their self esteem.

I agree about the benefits of a physical relationship. I found it tacky that that part of s relationship was explored before as Sprite called it, the character of a man was developed. In Ben's season it was about what talents they had by this time. For Jojo, it's about that they think about sex. Wonder how many of the guys had boners listening to each other's sex stories. Imo, it seemed like sex is foremost with her. She's a physical person by her admission and will no doubt find that counterpart . Like I said before, she must have had that with  ChadR too and yet he still cheated on her. So it goes when you look for sex before character imo.

JoJo didn't plan this stupid date. It was all TPTB and their minions. Their storyboard is sexy JoJo. Ben's story board was wholesome perfect Ben and his dates reflected that. Des was the sweetheart next door, so her dates reflected that. Farmer Douche had farm race dates and trips to Iowa. It is all story board and nothing to do with the lead at all.

I see JoJo trying to make the best of the situation she has been given. JMO.

Lucas15 wrote:

Sprite wrote:Boring.
Fake drama...boring.
JoJo and Ben and her need for sex...boring.
Men whiny little wieners....boring.
"Love story" we predicted before the season even started...boring.
The whole thing...BORING!

I sort of wonder if the reason we're finding this season so boring is that JoJo herself is finding it boring; at least she seems to me bored with the entire process. Or maybe just disinterested in going through the it ...

Yeah, unless your name is Jordan Rodgers, she's phoning it in.

Sure, Ben zoned into Lauren, and later JoJo to a lesser degree, but he was still present, and animated, and open with the other women at this point in his season. How he handled Jubilee's date comes to mind. He was very present with her, and even though by then you know in his head he was probably 98% sure he was the future Mr. Lauren Bushnell, he was totally present and sincere with Jubilee. I don't think we started to see Ben phone it in like JoJo has until Lauren H.'s late date. And even after then, he still stayed present and open enough with his final women. JMO.

In all fairness to JoJo though, she's out of all of these guys league. I mean, Evan, he who boasts a porn stache and works in erectile dysfunction with JoJo? Yeah, I bet.

SC's of tonight's epi are up: SC No Discussion Thread

Doesn't look like they gave us much new to look at.  I'll do tonight's SC's and get them posted tomorrow hopefully by early afternoon.

Oh skewer :cutesmile!:

RS posted a behind the scenes recap of the sex talks date from one of the ladies who runs it (it's a different bts than the glamour one.)

bluwavz wrote:

sosleepy wrote:^^ yeah, I agree. Chad is so OTT, that I'm starting to feel like this is Chad's season! He's even stealing JoJo's Thunder. Gah. Can't wait for him to get off my screen. Maybe then we'll start to learn a bit more about the real contenders and get rid of all this stupid Chad noise.

Honestly I just don't think I even care to get to know the real contenders anymore. This season feels like a total waste to me. The F4 is boring, the final couple is boring, this season is boring.

All JMO.

This.^^^ Watching paint dry would be more interesting than this. Hands down the most dull cast top to bottom And the most highly scripted season. The obvious reading cue cards (poorly and with mangled grammar) is so wearisome and tedious. JoJo kissing Evan twice.....UnReally?? In all the seasons of Bach/Ette....this is the first time that no one catches my fancy!! Boring and fake and boring and fake and boring.......

Where is the fun and laughter?? Nonexistent...that's where.