The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 3-4 - June 6-7th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

bluwavz wrote:I'm just not really feeling either Luke or Chase as the next lead yet. Given the choice between the two I'd still go with Luke just because he's older but both guys are putting me to sleep so far. I wish this was a better group of guys.

All JMO.

I liked Luke's quiet intensity, but feel like all of the F4 are getting lost in the Chad vs. the world drama edit. Maybe after this week they will let us see something worth watching next year.

I feel like this season has been one extended try out for BiP.

^^ yeah, I agree. Chad is so OTT, that I'm starting to feel like this is Chad's season! He's even stealing JoJo's Thunder. Gah. Can't wait for him to get off my screen. Maybe then we'll start to learn a bit more about the real contenders and get rid of all this stupid Chad noise.

Exactly - once Chad goes the focus will turn more on the F4 and we'll be able to see more of their personality

Usually I don't like the drama in this show, but I found last night's episode highly entertaining! Chad is nuts. Crazy. A raw sweet potato eating, ticking time bomb waiting to explode. Evan is a bit wimpy and a tattletale. James T. is adorable. I love his positive energy. He seems like just a happy guy who enjoys life to the fullest! I definitely see the Jordan and JoJo connection growing. I love Chase. He seems sweet. I'm looking forward to Chad getting the boot!!!

sosleepy wrote:^^ yeah, I agree. Chad is so OTT, that I'm starting to feel like this is Chad's season! He's even stealing JoJo's Thunder. Gah. Can't wait for him to get off my screen. Maybe then we'll start to learn a bit more about the real contenders and get rid of all this stupid Chad noise.

Honestly I just don't think I even care to get to know the real contenders anymore. This season feels like a total waste to me. The F4 is boring, the final couple is boring, this season is boring.

All JMO.

bluwavz wrote:

sosleepy wrote:^^ yeah, I agree. Chad is so OTT, that I'm starting to feel like this is Chad's season! He's even stealing JoJo's Thunder. Gah. Can't wait for him to get off my screen. Maybe then we'll start to learn a bit more about the real contenders and get rid of all this stupid Chad noise.

Honestly I just don't think I even care to get to know the real contenders anymore. This season feels like a total waste to me. The F4 is boring, the final couple is boring, this season is boring.

All JMO.

Hey, I don't disagree with you. I'm over this season as well. In my head I've already moved on to BIP speculation. That's 3 dud Bachelorette seasons in a row for me. Tear. My favorite installment of The Franchise is just failing me recently.

Jojo has the worst set of guys except 1-2 people. Seriously, the bullies amongst these guys are Alex and Evan.

Jojo isn't really a very good lead IMO. I think a good lead would actually possess some sensitivity to a situation and not do anything that would further inflame it. That group date has all sorts of signs to becoming a disaster waiting to happen. She saw the pulling of the shirt during the sex talk session and instead of doing something to calm the whole thing down, she made it worse by giving a rose to Evan? What she could have done is what some leads in the past have gone, which is not to give the group date rose. I remember that has happened in the past. I think the producers are really trying to inflame Chad and see how much further they can push him for him to explode. Jojo has no interest in Evan but she's either being coached to give him a rose or she's got no situational awareness skills or she's being totally fake!

This season is probably the most staged I've seen...security guys around and one of them saying excuse me without the scene in the cutting room floor to remove the security guard interrupting a conversation? Ridiculous!!

I like Chase but that date was so boring.  Didn't see any connection between the two of them.  Jojo saying the most she's felt connected to Chase was during the time she was straddling the guy's lap...never mind that they haven't really had any depth in their conversation.  

The conversations she's had with the guys are really shallow. Is Ben really the most painful event in her life that she uses that as her lead in for the guy to open up?  The guys are telling her about child hood rejection, parents' divorce, etc. yet all I've learned about her is her past relationship with Ben, which in real life added together is probably 1 week at the most.  Same observations I had during Ben's season, in the 3-4 conversations she's had with Ben, all she talked about was her past relationship.  

Yep, Jojo is all over Jordan. You can see when they were in the audience that she keeps touching him and he barely looked at her. I think she's more into him than he is into her.  Based on watching the feet concept, Jordan is most def F1!

Is it just me who thought the whole security thing was staged? I mean IMO they would have security there always just in case and there's no way they called security up just for Chad

bellehuntley wrote:If Jordan doesn't win and the spoiler turns out to be fake he will 100% be the next lead in my opinion, and I can't see his season being a boring one

Curious, why? The only edit he is receiving so far is Aarron's little wannabe and a John Frieda mousse commercial.

I haven't watched yet, but from catching up on posts in here... thinking I can totally skip it and maybe tonights too.  

I agree with Blu above. Snoozefest with a bit of roll my eye fun watching Chad for 15 secs. I believe that sweet pot was cooked, peeled and ingested. JMO.

The security thing was "Unreal". If there was a real issue Chad would have been gone.

Kashathediva wrote:

bellehuntley wrote:If Jordan doesn't win and the spoiler turns out to be fake he will 100% be the next lead in my opinion, and I can't see his season being a boring one

Curious, why? The only edit he is receiving so far is Aarron's little wannabe and a John Frieda mousse commercial.

He just seems very charming and charismatic in my opinion and I think he could carry a season well