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Post by 2observe Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:11 pm

veg_out wrote:Litta, thanks for the suggestion!

Wanted to follow-up on a question that @MiaHawk asked in our general discussion thread about Chase being shown as one of the "safe" guys for JoJo.

So that it's all in one location, I brought over @aviej's post:
@MiaHawk being #TeamChase, I just want to jump right in and explain where she felt safe with Chase. First, there is the comment left in the edit when the limo was burning where Chase was wondering out loud: "I'm thinking is JoJo in there? Should I go grab a fire extinguisher? Does somebody need to be a hero here?" In the evening portion of their 1on1 date on the table JoJo says: You were so encouraging and made me feel comfortable even when I looked stupid. Feeling safe and protected, like that is huge to me". She also says that she feels that Chase is "genuinely here" for her.

From the jump, Chase is shown as being into JoJo. In episode 1, even though brief, their 1:1 time focused on their eyes and the eye contact that they made, perhaps a foreshadowing of the sustained eye contact of the yabyum date. Chase indicates that he is looking for "that feeling." JoJo spends a lot of time in epi 1 reflecting on feeling "the instant connection." Later, during their epi 3 1:1, they both comment on feeling that connection with each other after the yabyum. Throughout the season to date, Chase also is shown pantomiming the "stab to the heart" when Jordan is given the FIR, frustrated when he's not on a date, excited in the limo on his way to meet JoJo at the yoga studio, and annoyed with not getting more time with her after the football game. We see him hugging her and being close to her in brief snippets in episode 4 as reminders that he's there. He's into her genuinely.

In the midst of the Chad chaos of episode 2, Chase swoops her away to a private 1:1 while Jordan, Luke, and Robby are mired in the muck. He makes her feel special. Also, see aviej's post about his comment before the fire date. After watching this episode, it seemed like Chase was being set up as Jo's port in the storm, her safe space.

In episode 3, their story built on the initial idea posed in episode 1 about connection. They are literally physically and emotionally exploring the idea of being connected, all limbs and line of sight and breathing. At the end, both of them say that they feel connected to each other. JoJo comments that she feels safe and protected in his arms, and she reiterates that to him later that night. He affirms her with his words--Jo's love language is words of affirmation--that he also thinks that's incredibly important. He also doesn't want her to forget the way that she felt that day. She reflects on the fact that Chase makes her feel safe, that they can talk about important issues already, that he went along with the silliness of the date and made her feel comfortable. When I look at the things that Jo wants--someone who is sweet, sensitive, passionate, loving, deep; someone who makes her smile, feel special, feel safe--I think that a case is being built that Chase is one of those guys.

Maybe Jo's comment to him that she couldn't forget that feeling on their date was like Ben's "I won't blindside you," a portent of the ending that she does forget him. We'll see--not enough material yet to decide how this thing ends.
Well, we know that she didn't forget because of the beach yoga screencap.
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Post by veg_out Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:20 pm

@2observe, I didn't know that you had joined the unspoiled crowd this season?! Good point!
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Post by agentcurls Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:32 pm

MiaHawk wrote:
Litta123 wrote:Ladies, ladies, ladies, breaking news...I've found my bottle of wine for the finale! laugh out loud

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Love it! clapping!
yes  I think I'm going to need a few bottles of this these next few episodes! I may go straight outta the bottle like JoJo's mom.  bestbud!
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Post by agentcurls Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:37 pm

veg_out wrote:Litta, thanks for the suggestion!

Wanted to follow-up on a question that @MiaHawk asked in our general discussion thread about Chase being shown as one of the "safe" guys for JoJo.

So that it's all in one location, I brought over @aviej's post:
@MiaHawk being #TeamChase, I just want to jump right in and explain where she felt safe with Chase. First, there is the comment left in the edit when the limo was burning where Chase was wondering out loud: "I'm thinking is JoJo in there? Should I go grab a fire extinguisher? Does somebody need to be a hero here?" In the evening portion of their 1on1 date on the table JoJo says: You were so encouraging and made me feel comfortable even when I looked stupid. Feeling safe and protected, like that is huge to me". She also says that she feels that Chase is "genuinely here" for her.

From the jump, Chase is shown as being into JoJo. In episode 1, even though brief, their 1:1 time focused on their eyes and the eye contact that they made, perhaps a foreshadowing of the sustained eye contact of the yabyum date. Chase indicates that he is looking for "that feeling." JoJo spends a lot of time in epi 1 reflecting on feeling "the instant connection." Later, during their epi 3 1:1, they both comment on feeling that connection with each other after the yabyum. Throughout the season to date, Chase also is shown pantomiming the "stab to the heart" when Jordan is given the FIR, frustrated when he's not on a date, excited in the limo on his way to meet JoJo at the yoga studio, and annoyed with not getting more time with her after the football game. We see him hugging her and being close to her in brief snippets in episode 4 as reminders that he's there. He's into her genuinely.

In the midst of the Chad chaos of episode 2, Chase swoops her away to a private 1:1 while Jordan, Luke, and Robby are mired in the muck. He makes her feel special. Also, see aviej's post about his comment before the fire date. After watching this episode, it seemed like Chase was being set up as Jo's port in the storm, her safe space.

In episode 3, their story built on the initial idea posed in episode 1 about connection. They are literally physically and emotionally exploring the idea of being connected, all limbs and line of sight and breathing. At the end, both of them say that they feel connected to each other. JoJo comments that she feels safe and protected in his arms, and she reiterates that to him later that night. He affirms her with his words--Jo's love language is words of affirmation--that he also thinks that's incredibly important. He also doesn't want her to forget the way that she felt that day. She reflects on the fact that Chase makes her feel safe, that they can talk about important issues already, that he went along with the silliness of the date and made her feel comfortable. When I look at the things that Jo wants--someone who is sweet, sensitive, passionate, loving, deep; someone who makes her smile, feel special, feel safe--I think that a case is being built that Chase is one of those guys.

Maybe Jo's comment to him that she couldn't forget that feeling on their date was like Ben's "I won't blindside you," a portent of the ending that she does forget him. We'll see--not enough material yet to decide how this thing ends.
I love your post, @veg_out. You really laid it out eloquently. 
I know there are some things counting against Chase as F1 (2:1 date/JoJo's blogs), but...I, too, am having a hard time shaking his edit.
Trying to stay open to all possibilities. Should be interesting to see what happens these next few episodes.
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Post by MiaHawk Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:46 pm

Veg-out, nice summary of Chase. NO SPOILERS - CHASE - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing NO Spoilers* - Page 13 1377737533
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Post by rhondam Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:23 pm

Great observations @veg_out ! Also, I remember him saying in an ITM (or Personal Interview) in Ep 2 (it could've also been Ep 1 but I think it was Ep 2 before/during/or after the snow scene) "...I know what JoJo deserves and I know what she needs." This stuck out to me because I thought Yay! JoJo's going to get a sweetheart!
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Post by Litta123 Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:38 pm

Veg, loved the case for Chase.  yes I agree. Something is going on with his edit. His face is the conclusion on so many VOs that appear to point to "winner." Even that specific word was used, followed by a cut to Chase. If Chase isn't JoJo's F1, my guess is that TPTB think he should be. From what we know (operative word) of Chase, he seems the most Ben-like of our supposed F4.

I really want to see JoJo's interaction with Robby and Jordan before I can feel confident in what I just wrote, but that's my sense at this moment.


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Post by veg_out Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:31 pm

Thanks, gals PINKHEART I agree that there's just so much left to this thing that it's hard to throw weight behind anyone at the moment. These next three episodes will toss things up in the air as all middle acts of narrative/plays do. We'll see if the things we're predicting actually play out. Some of these relationships will have to crash and burn while others will rise. Exciting stuff!

I'm with AC that we might all need to join JoJo's Mom's Wine Drinking Club aka Straight-From-The-Bottle Ladies!
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Post by rhondam Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:22 pm

Omgosh!!lovetogether I just re-watched Chase and JoJo's date....   :sprinklehearts 
They are so adorable. Oh please.... oh please, I hope it's him. They are too cute! heartbeat
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Post by agentcurls Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:23 pm

rhondam wrote:Omgosh!!lovetogether I just re-watched Chase and JoJo's date....   :sprinklehearts 
They are so adorable. Oh please.... oh please, I hope it's him. They are too cute! heartbeat
The way they were peering into one another's eyes, stroking each other's backs, and brushing noses until Chase slowly went in for that first kiss. I'm a bit ashamed at the number of times I watched it.  Embarassed
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Post by aviej Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:41 pm

Yes, I love a man with a soft and gentle touch. But yet he's so masculine as we saw him dominate the football field. Clearly JoJo wanted that kiss but he kept her desiring more until she practically puckered her lips and he went in for the kill. And in their private concert, did you see how she was grabbing him to kiss him by bringing his neck closer? And my subtitles indicate that JoJo said, " I just want to kiss you". Definite chemistry there and oh so HAWT! :fanningfan
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Post by veg_out Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:51 pm

Fave moment of them:
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Check out this look at him:
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Whatever does happen in the end, that date will always be a favorite.
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